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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:05 am
 


Title: US spy leaker Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong
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Posted By: martin14
Date: 2013-06-10 23:13:11


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:05 am
 


Did the US get him already ?

Or working for the Chinese ?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:08 am
 


I'll bet he's on the run. Staying at the hotel would most certainly involve capture by Hong Kong officials, and eventual extradition to the U.S.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:23 am
 


The Chungking Mansions could hide someone easily enough.....trillions of roaches and billions of rats too


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:25 am
 


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I'll bet he's on the run. Staying at the hotel would most certainly involve capture by Hong Kong officials, and eventual extradition to the U.S.


There will be no extradition, because there will never be any warrant. Despite being distasteful to some, he didn't do anything illegal.

Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?

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Glenn Greenwald, author of The Guardian NSA reports based on Snowden’s information, before calling Boehner’s comments “pathetic”: “It’s really remarkable, moving and extraordinary to watch somebody who’s 29-years-old [Snowden], who knows that they’re probably going to be spending decades in a small cage… to be so completely at peace with what it is they’ve done because they really are convinced in the bottom of their soul that it’s the right thing to do… People in power hate it when you shine a light on what it is they do. They’re like cockroaches, they like to operate in the dark.” (To ABC News Monday)


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Daniel Ellsberg, leaker of the 1971 Pentagon Papers: “I’m very impressed by the civil courage that Edward Snowden has shown and I think that he gives me hope that we may actually gain our Bill of Rights back… To me, he’s a hero and I think to very many Americans. As for being called a traitor, that’s part of the price of telling the truth that the President doesn’t want told. I paid that price myself.” (To ABC News Monday)


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50,000-plus White House petitions signers, more than halfway to the 100,00 mark at which the White House must formally respond: “Edward Snowden is a national hero and should be immediately issued a full, free and absolute pardon for any crimes he has committed or may have committed related to blowing the whistle on secret NSA surveillance programs.” (From the White House’s We The People website)


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... a-traitor/


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:30 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?

Bradley Manning...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:38 am
 


raydan raydan:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?

Bradley Manning...


Bradley Manning released documents wholesale, which I believe a number of them put intelligence assets at risk of bodily harm. I'll give Snowden credit for not being an arrogant ass like Manning by releasing details about a program that no doubt impacts a majority of Americans who use any sort of telecommunication technology.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:39 am
 


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Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?


If one takes an Oath not reveal things and signs the appropriate non discloser documents. Thats what they are saying he violated. I would still like to see the proof of this before he is lynched by Gov. officals.

What has me laughing is one part of the Gov. says 'Hey its not big deal we rarely get any info on US citizens blah blah blah blah" Then you hear a Gov. offical saying this guy has released info that has put people into danger he needs to be arrested blah blah blah blah. I'm just ok what is it, no big deal or is it treason or what?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:45 am
 


commanderkai commanderkai:
raydan raydan:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?

Bradley Manning...


Bradley Manning released documents wholesale, which I believe a number of them put intelligence assets at risk of bodily harm. I'll give Snowden credit for not being an arrogant ass like Manning by releasing details about a program that no doubt impacts a majority of Americans who use any sort of telecommunication technology.

Maybe they believed the general public didn't need to know... or that potential terrorists shouldn't know that they may be monitored. For Manning, I've heard info from both sides, that it put people at risk and that it didn't. One common result for both actions is that it really bothered a lot of people higher up... now how can that be a bad thing? :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:47 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
There will be no extradition, because there will never be any warrant. Despite being distasteful to some, he didn't do anything illegal.

Releasing classified information is definitely illegal.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:48 am
 


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$1:
Since when did telling people what their government is up to become so wrong?


If one takes an Oath not reveal things and signs the appropriate non discloser documents. Thats what they are saying he violated. I would still like to see the proof of this before he is lynched by Gov. officals.

What has me laughing is one part of the Gov. says 'Hey its not big deal we rarely get any info on US citizens blah blah blah blah" Then you hear a Gov. offical saying this guy has released info that has put people into danger he needs to be arrested blah blah blah blah. I'm just ok what is it, no big deal or is it treason or what?

When someone does something and then runs off to hide in another country... I can't help but think that he did something illegal.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:04 am
 


stratos stratos:
If one takes an Oath not reveal things and signs the appropriate non disclosure documents.


In the US the oath that everyone takes is to defend and protect the Constitution. In this case I'd say Snowden is actually fulfilling that oath given that the NSA is doing things far beyond the scope of what they're allowed to do under the law.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:10 pm
 


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Bradley Manning released documents wholesale, which I believe a number of them put intelligence assets at risk of bodily harm. I'll give Snowden credit for not being an arrogant ass like Manning by releasing details about a program that no doubt impacts a majority of Americans who use any sort of telecommunication technology.


Sounds more like a confirmation bias to me.

It will be an interesting psychological study to read the comments in the Bradeley Manning threads and compare them to the Snowden comments.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:16 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
commanderkai commanderkai:
Bradley Manning released documents wholesale, which I believe a number of them put intelligence assets at risk of bodily harm. I'll give Snowden credit for not being an arrogant ass like Manning by releasing details about a program that no doubt impacts a majority of Americans who use any sort of telecommunication technology.


Sounds more like a confirmation bias to me.

It will be an interesting psychological study to read the comments in the Bradeley Manning threads and compare them to the Snowden comments.



Manning was a soldier, he had a different set of regulations to follow.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:44 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Sounds more like a confirmation bias to me.

It will be an interesting psychological study to read the comments in the Bradeley Manning threads and compare them to the Snowden comments.


Why? I didn't say Snowden was correct in his actions, but at least, (according to his interview with the Guardian) he specifically chose to release information that won't put actual human lives at risk.

Both individuals certainly were forbidden from releasing any information, and they both should face the consequences for their actions, but, I'm SLIGHTLY more sympathetic for Snowden for having better judgment in what he decided to leak.


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