[Newsbot]

Title: Pilot's marijuana use contributed to N.W.T. fatal plane crash
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2013-03-20 14:41:42
Canadian

[1Peg]

What a crock. He could have smoked up 3 days prior to this crash and still have the same levels of THC in his blood. The best test is a cell swab that works from 2-48 hours.

[DanSC]

Not at all surprising. Plenty of accidents are caused by pilots impaired by THC. Though it's less common in commercial aviation.

[Freakinoldguy]

It's to bad that people died because he felt that marijuana didn't impare his ability to pilot a plane but, given the current climate in the rage against the state marijuana debate it's understandable.

Had he been pissed to the gills instead of impaired by a drug that's difficult to detect, I'm pretty sure his passengers wouldn't have boarded that plane and might still be alive.

[Vamp018]

Not a good thing for my Canadian Home. Alcohol and Drugs sadly are a serious issue up there thru the three Territories and very serious within the bush Pilots and commercial pilot community. I hope Air Tindi adapts Canadian North/Yukon Air Alcohol/drug policy and testing mandates. Summit and Buffalo follow Canadian North's lead and First Air's.

[OnTheIce]

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

[raydan]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

As harmless as booze.

[Freakinoldguy]

raydan raydan:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

As harmless as booze.

At least you can smell the alcohol. This case is just the tip of the iceberg. How many people out there are driving, flying, working or whatever under the influence of marijuana or other drugs that we have no idea about?

And legalizing it won't make one bit of difference in the attitude of the users who are already endangering our lives with their me first attitudes.

[raydan]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

raydan raydan:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

As harmless as booze.

At least you can smell the alcohol. This case is just the tip of the iceberg. How many people out there are driving, flying, working or whatever under the influence of marijuana or other drugs that we have no idea about?

And legalizing it won't make one bit of difference in the attitude of the users who are already endangering our lives with their me first attitudes.

Of course it won't, just like it doesn't for some people who drink and drive.

[Curtman]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

raydan raydan:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

As harmless as booze.

At least you can smell the alcohol. This case is just the tip of the iceberg. How many people out there are driving, flying, working or whatever under the influence of marijuana or other drugs that we have no idea about?

And legalizing it won't make one bit of difference in the attitude of the users who are already endangering our lives with their me first attitudes.

If what your saying is true, then prohibition is ineffective at stopping this. You can't stop all crime, ipso facto prohibition should end.

[Public_Domain]

[Regina]

raydan raydan:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Impossible. Pot is harmless.

As harmless as booze.

8 hours between bottle and throttle.

[Freakinoldguy]

Curtman Curtman:

If what your saying is true, then prohibition is ineffective at stopping this. You can't stop all crime, ipso facto prohibition should end.

WTF?

Because you can't stop all crime prohibition should end? That makes no sense.

This isn't about prohibition or stopping "all" crime it's about the ability to hide a self induced impairment because of the characteristics of the drug and the idiots using that drug so they can stay stoned and still have their high paying job unlike the alcoholic who at some point will get caught because of the characteristics of his addiction?

Maybe what they need is mandatory drug testing and extremely harsh sentences for people who use drugs while entrusted with the publics safety because these drug users don't show up on peoples radar like alcoholics do and your claim that it should be legalized won't make one bit of difference either way to these people.

[Curtman]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Because you can't stop all crime prohibition should end? That makes no sense.

Its the usual excuse for continuing prohibition. I figure it should work both ways if at all.

$1:

This isn't about prohibition or stopping "all" crime it's about the ability to hide a self induced impairment because of the characteristics of the drug and the idiots using that drug so they can stay stoned and still have their high paying job unlike the alcoholic who at some point will get caught because of the characteristics of his addiction?

Maybe what they need is mandatory drug testing and extremely harsh sentences for people who use drugs while entrusted with the publics safety because these drug users don't show up on peoples radar like alcoholics do and your claim that it should be legalized won't make one bit of difference either way to these people.

Yes there should be standards for people entrusted with the publics safety. You get drug tested to work on a pipeline, but not for flying a plane?

Bizarre.

You can detect even casual marijuana use 30 days later, but "8 hours between bottle and throttle" is good. You're fine to fly a plane but not to apply coating to a weld on a pipe.

http://www.newapproachwa.org/sites/newa ... 12%202.pdf

Regulation would include regulations on usage. Prohibition doesn't.

[1Peg]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Maybe what they need is mandatory drug testing

Please explain to me how mandatory drug testing will work
when the government allows head shops to sell masking agents
to pass the drug tests?