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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:09 am
The numbers are going down, but much too slowly. If I was an American I would be very worried about the state of the science sector.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:13 am
funny, they developed nuclear power and put a man on the moon when the majority of Americans believed. Guess some people have no trouble keeping their religious beliefs seperate from everything else.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:15 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: funny, they developed nuclear power and put a man on the moon when the majority of Americans believed. Guess some people have no trouble keeping their religious beliefs seperate from everything else. Well said! ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:15 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: funny, they developed nuclear power and put a man on the moon when the majority of Americans believed. Guess some people have no trouble keeping their religious beliefs seperate from everything else. Yep, but that won't be good enough for the haters. Must extinguish thoughts that don't match their own.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:17 am
Gunnair Gunnair: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: funny, they developed nuclear power and put a man on the moon when the majority of Americans believed. Guess some people have no trouble keeping their religious beliefs seperate from everything else. Yep, but that won't be good enough for the haters. Must extinguish thoughts that don't match their own. I've said it before that there are some non-believers that are as fanatical as the religious nuts that they mock.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:19 am
50 years ago the evidence for evolution was not as strong as it is today. For a learned scientist to ignore genetic proof, fossil records, carbon dating, and actual observations of the diversion of one species into two, is just staggering to me. With that said, it is just as unnerving to see the majority of a country to see myths as real and evidence as fiction.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:20 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: 50 years ago the evidence for evolution was not as strong as it is today. For a learned scientist to ignore genetic proof, fossil records, carbon dating, and actual observations of the diversion of one species into two, is just staggering to me. With that said, it is just as unnerving to see the majority of a country to see myths as real and evidence as fiction. Not sure here how what beliefs they hold could be any of your business. Maybe you should just mind your own instead of dreaming for a mass conversion.
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CrazyNewfie
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:21 am
OMG! Really? Almost half of Americans are blinded by religion, why am I not surprised in the least? Not only is there fossil evidence that we evolved over a greeat period of time, but there's also DNA evidence to back it up. I think highly religious people are very similar to conspiracy theorists in that they believe scienctists (somehow every single one) are lieing to us! Now I don't claim to know the answer, no one really does, but there is more scientific evidence that we evolved over time then there is some book written a few thousand years ago that claims to know the truth. It amazes me that people can put so much faith in words written thousands of years ago that for all we know was just meant to be a story with lessons for people.
Do you know that some (a lot?) of these same people who believe we were created in our present form also believe the Earth is the centre of the solar system? Yeah that's right, the sun revolves around the Earth!
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:24 am
CrazyNewfie CrazyNewfie: Do you know that some (a lot?) of these same people who believe we were created in our present form also believe the Earth is the centre of the solar system? Yeah that's right, the sun revolves around the Earth! I'm sure you will be able to provide the proof for such a claim. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:29 am
Gunnair Gunnair: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: 50 years ago the evidence for evolution was not as strong as it is today. For a learned scientist to ignore genetic proof, fossil records, carbon dating, and actual observations of the diversion of one species into two, is just staggering to me. With that said, it is just as unnerving to see the majority of a country to see myths as real and evidence as fiction. Not sure here how what beliefs they hold could be any of your business. Maybe you should just mind your own instead of dreaming for a mass conversion. Dont know why you think I want people to forsake their belief in God. It is very easy to hold a belief that God started life, but that we still evolved from that instance of unicellular creation. Maybe you should stop assuming that every Atheist wants to eradicate theistic beliefs.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:31 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Gunnair Gunnair: Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: 50 years ago the evidence for evolution was not as strong as it is today. For a learned scientist to ignore genetic proof, fossil records, carbon dating, and actual observations of the diversion of one species into two, is just staggering to me. With that said, it is just as unnerving to see the majority of a country to see myths as real and evidence as fiction. Not sure here how what beliefs they hold could be any of your business. Maybe you should just mind your own instead of dreaming for a mass conversion. Dont know why you think I want people to forsake their belief in God. It is very easy to hold a belief that God started life, but that we still evolved from that instance of unicellular creation. Maybe you should stop assuming that every Atheist wants to eradicate theistic beliefs. Reread your first post.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:38 am
Where in that post do I make the argument against belief in god? Americans have been at the cutting edge of technology for decades, if American schools throw scientific evidence to the wayside one can assume that it will retard future scientific endeavors.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:41 am
You've stated quite clearly I thought that you believed a stated religious belief was not eroding soon enough - creationism. Irrespective of whether you are being coy here, you would like to see beliefs change because you disagree with them - and when you alter those beliefs, you alter their view of God.
So yes, you are advocating they stop believing in their concept of God and convert over to your highly sanitized version of God.
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andyt
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:48 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes: Where in that post do I make the argument against belief in god? Americans have been at the cutting edge of technology for decades, if American schools throw scientific evidence to the wayside one can assume that it will retard future scientific endeavors. It's not just about evolution. If someone believes that humans were placed here 10,000 years ago, they have to throw physics and chemistry and the geology based on them out the window as well. Oh, and biology as well, since they're going to believe in a virgin birth as well. And science as a whole, really, since so much of the bible contains miracles that can't be explained by any science we have. I understand how someone can be a scientist and believe in an intelligence guiding the universe, but to be a fundy and a scientist requires intellectual contortions that I would want to take a close look at what they're doing in their research. But no worry, it's all been explained to me in a video I saw by a doctor somebody or other. God is outside science, He created the natural laws, so he can break them as well. See how simple (doubtle meaning intended) is really is?
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