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Title: Honecker widow Margot defends communist East Germany
Category: World
Posted By: maldonsfecht
Date: 2012-04-03 10:50:24

[maldonsfecht]

Here's something for those who want to "get it right this time" with Communism... can't be done. Let it go. Better yet, visit the places still horribly scarred by its years of control or simply move to a country where it is still in effect.

[BartSimpson]

The leftards on this site will not be convinced by this. Any information that is counter to their Marxist religion is not even acknowledged or they'll dismiss the avarices of regimes like East Germany by saying that they 'weren't really communists anyway'.

+1 for trying, though.

Oh, and this woman is a typical communist in that she has no regrets for the murders she participated in, she has no regrets for the families she broke up, and she pines away for a system that failed in the presence of freedom.

[Hyack]

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

Here's something for those who want to "get it right this time" with Communism... can't be done. Let it go. Better yet, visit the places still horribly scarred by its years of control or simply move to a country where it is still in effect.

Please do not edit the titles of your submissions to the CKA news, if you wish to make a specific comment on the subject please do so by posting the topic in the forums.

[maldonsfecht]

Hyack Hyack:

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

Here's something for those who want to "get it right this time" with Communism... can't be done. Let it go. Better yet, visit the places still horribly scarred by its years of control or simply move to a country where it is still in effect.

Please do not edit the titles of your submissions to the CKA news, if you wish to make a specific comment on the subject please do so by posting the topic in the forums.

You got it!

[maldonsfecht]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The leftards on this site will not be convinced by this. Any information that is counter to their Marxist religion is not even acknowledged or they'll dismiss the avarices of regimes like East Germany by saying that they 'weren't really communists anyway'.

+1 for trying, though.

Oh, and this woman is a typical communist in that she has no regrets for the murders she participated in, she has no regrets for the families she broke up, and she pines away for a system that failed in the presence of freedom.

Cheers man.

After living in Germany, Sweden and the Czech Republic, I've seen Swedish leftists marching in the streets having never been under that yoke and my "East" German and Czech friends telling their horror stories of life in the former German Democratic Republic and Czechoslovakia; not to mention the lefties I ran into back in my Canadian university.

[martin14]

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

Here's something for those who want to "get it right this time" with Communism... can't be done. Let it go. Better yet, visit the places still horribly scarred by its years of control or simply move to a country where it is still in effect.

Too bad they can't hear you, I guess the insulation in mom's basement

is just too strong.

[maldonsfecht]

I recommend this great Czech author's book...

http://www.amazon.com/Joke-Definitive-V ... 006099505X

[DanSC]

Every time someone tells me we (USA or Canada) should have a strictly-enforced command economy, I ask them where a command economy has actually worked without making the working class a serf class with absolutely no escape. Their reply has always been, "Just because it hasn't worked yet doesn't mean it won't work eventually!" And yes, they usually shout this sentiment.

[SprCForr]

Ahh, a former member of the priviledged elite of an odious regime raises her head.

I thought she was dead. I won't be sorry to see her and people of her ilk go.

[BartSimpson]

DanSC DanSC:

Every time someone tells me we (USA or Canada) should have a strictly-enforced command economy, I ask them where a command economy has actually worked without making the working class a serf class with absolutely no escape. Their reply has always been, "Just because it hasn't worked yet doesn't mean it won't work eventually!" And yes, they usually shout this sentiment.

'It didn't work because the right people were not in charge!'

That seems to be the most popular theme.

The problem with communism is that it simultaneously requires and excuses the use of deadly force to compel people to participate in it. It also requires the forcible indoctrination of a population to convince them that communism is the best system ever.

In the West it has been the case that 'creeping socialism' has been laying the groundwork for the next step which is full-blown socialism followed by eventual communism.

Right now in the USA a socialist named Obama (he was a registered Socialist until 1991 when he registered Democrat) is battling the US Supreme Court not so much over health care but over the notion that the government can force people to buy something and the legal question that even some liberal justices have posed is: 'If the government can do this then what can't it do?'

Lots of us are hoping that the Court will say no to this precedent setting seizure of power.

Because if they reverse what's called the Wilkins decision (which is what is partly at stake here) then the last seventy years of government expansion of power will be reversed in one fell swoop.

The Federal government in the USA in just a few months may lose its power to regulate: education, transportation, the environment, the broadcast spectrum, energy, intrastate commerce, and etc.

All of these powers would revert to the states and in many states they'd revert to the people.

It's no coincidence that as the government has taken more power in the USA that the USA itself has become less powerful in the world. China today is in the news saying that the USA is a power that is in decline. If we were to move back to the foundational understandings that made us great in the first place then it is conceivable that China could be proved wrong.

One can hope.

[BartSimpson]

SprCForr SprCForr:

I thought she was dead.

Lord, haste the day!

[Freakinoldguy]

SprCForr SprCForr:

Ahh, a former member of the priviledged elite of an odious regime raises her head.

I thought she was dead. I won't be sorry to see her and people of her ilk go.

You're probably thinking about that other piece of human refuse:

Elena Ceausescu

[EyeBrock]

DanSC DanSC:

Every time someone tells me we (USA or Canada) should have a strictly-enforced command economy, I ask them where a command economy has actually worked without making the working class a serf class with absolutely no escape. Their reply has always been, "Just because it hasn't worked yet doesn't mean it won't work eventually!" And yes, they usually shout this sentiment.

It's an interesting and relevant observation. I was listening to the latest BBC History magazine podcast and they had an interview with a guy who's wrote a book called "Why Nations Fail" (http://whynationsfail.com/).

Basically his theory is that without strong institutions of freedom, law, political accountability and open society, command economies fail.

It's logical when you think about it and he compared the old USSR to the present Chinese regime. Command economies can only go so far without political and social freedom.

Imagine that!

Those who are interested in this stuff should checkout the BBC History podcasts on itunes. They are free and very interesting with an obvious UK slant.


http://www.historyextra.com/

[ShepherdsDog]

the government involvement in the economy should only be 'regulatory'...ensure that monopolies aren't formed and protect against price fixing. They should ensure workers and employers follow established labour laws and contracts.