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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:15 pm
 


Now that I'm older I really don't like driving high anymore. But all told I've probably driven almost as many miles high as I have sober. No accidents, no close calls. Even got waved through a spot check despite the odour emanating from my car :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:17 pm
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Now that I'm older I really don't like driving high anymore. But all told I've probably driven almost as many miles high as I have sober. No accidents, no close calls. Even got waved through a spot check despite the odour emanating from my car :lol:


Must...bite...tongue.





PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:10 pm
 


This is interesting. [popcorn]





I've been looking to find a study showing marijuana drivers performing badly. they're hard to find..

This one is pretty close:
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION - MARIJUANA AND ACTUAL DRIVING PERFORMANCE: EFFECTS OF THC ON DRIVING PERFORMANCE
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In summary, this program of research has shown that marijuana, when taken alone, produces a moderate degree of driving impairment which is related to the consumed THC dose. The impairment manifests itself mainly in the ability to maintain a steady lateral position on the road, but its magnitude is not exceptional in comparison with changes produced by many medicinal drugs and alcohol.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:55 pm
 


Pot is safer as far as which is the lower risk regarding driving. But stoners causing accidents ending in fatalities still happen.

So people shouldn't be driving under the influence of any substance, period





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Bodah Bodah:
People shouldn't be driving under the influence of any substance, period.


True, but I can't find any reason to believe that legalizing marijuana would be more dangerous than legalizing Tylenol with Codeine.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:06 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
Bodah Bodah:
People shouldn't be driving under the influence of any substance, period.


True, but I can't find any reason to believe that legalizing marijuana would be more dangerous than legalizing Tylenol with Codeine.


We should legalize and tax the shit out of pot.

But I don't want people driving stoned.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:17 pm
 


I agree with Bodah.

The whole 'impaired by drug' stuff is problematic to the decriminalisation or legalisation of weed.

If there was an equivalent of the alcohol roadside intoxiliser for weed, it would really further the acceptance of weed as a mainstream legalised method of getting intoxicated.

Until that ‘test’ is found, decriminalisation will founder on the MADD/impaired driving issue in Canada.





PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:23 pm
 


Bodah Bodah:
Curtman Curtman:
Bodah Bodah:
People shouldn't be driving under the influence of any substance, period.


True, but I can't find any reason to believe that legalizing marijuana would be more dangerous than legalizing Tylenol with Codeine.


We should legalize and tax the shit out of pot.

But I don't want people driving stoned.


I agree with Bodah too. I don't want anyone driving drunk, stoned, on codeine, or too much cough syrup.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:35 pm
 


Our roads aren't unsafe because of impaired drivers. They're unsafe because of bad drivers. 75% of the people legally licensed to drive ought to be prohibited from ever driving again and that has nothing to do with their use of drugs or alcohol. I'd rather share the road with a careful drunk than most of the twits driving around cold sober.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:43 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
I agree with Bodah too. I don't want anyone driving drunk, stoned, on codeine, or too much cough syrup.


Yet somewhere, there's some dude with all four coursing through his veins angrily yelling at the garbage can earlier in the Burger King drive-thru getting madder and madder they won't give him a total on his Whopper combo.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:46 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
We have an illegal drug that just mellows people out and we have a legal one (booze) that turns a large minority of people into aggressive idiots.


In your professional capacity, would you rather deal with an angry drunk itching for a fight or a stoner giggling because he's thinking about the funny song they play on the Yodeler game on the Price is Right?

It's pretty hard to rationally demonize marijuana use while remaining straight faced about alcohol use being okay. Either you use the same reasons to prohibit both OR you use the same reasons to legalize both.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:04 pm
 


I tried driving stoned once. I lasted 5 minutes and had to pull over. Just couldn't do it.





PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:07 pm
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
Our roads aren't unsafe because of impaired drivers. They're unsafe because of bad drivers. 75% of the people legally licensed to drive ought to be prohibited from ever driving again and that has nothing to do with their use of drugs or alcohol. I'd rather share the road with a careful drunk than most of the twits driving around cold sober.


Yup. Mandatory retesting after 3 at-fault accidents, and at least a written test every 25 years? :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:14 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
Lemmy Lemmy:
Our roads aren't unsafe because of impaired drivers. They're unsafe because of bad drivers. 75% of the people legally licensed to drive ought to be prohibited from ever driving again and that has nothing to do with their use of drugs or alcohol. I'd rather share the road with a careful drunk than most of the twits driving around cold sober.


Yup. Mandatory retesting after 3 at-fault accidents, and at least a written test every 25 years? :)


The written test could be done with a minimum of fuss and cost at the same time the license is renewed every 5 years.

And I wouldn't wait for 3 at-fault accidents before retesting on the road. 1 at fault, if damages are more than a couple thousand dollars, and 3 combined at-fault and not at-fault. Just because I feel that even in a lot of cases where a driver is found to not be at fault there is still something they should or shouldn't have done that was atleast a part of the reason for the accident.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:26 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The whole 'impaired by drug' stuff is problematic to the decriminalisation or legalisation of weed.

If there was an equivalent of the alcohol roadside intoxiliser for weed, it would really further the acceptance of weed as a mainstream legalised method of getting intoxicated.

Until that ‘test’ is found, decriminalisation will founder on the MADD/impaired driving issue in Canada.


Here's the test you can conduct.

You can just walk up to the suspected impaired driver while eating chips out of a bag and offer he/she one, if they accept.

Busted.


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