[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

Ok, so Lebanon. "See when you say that historically this is how it happens..." I thought you were indicating a trend or a historical norm of some kind. If you are talking about Lebanon, then that is a case study. You maybe should just state, thats what happened in Lebanon.

Why would I do that. I said Historically. I meant historically. You asked for a recent example. There ya go - Lebanon. What? No thank you?

So I take it now you would like an old one. Very well, 1400 years ago there was Medina. That was actually the first. It was the Mohammedan model provided by the "perfect example" of the warlord they called the prophet. Want one from the middle now?

[martin14]

BRAH BRAH:

Meanwhile.

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Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan won't take questions on Brussels bombing on way out of cabinet. Says has to get pizza for his kids.

When is this guy going to resign ?

He's such an embarrassment already.

[BRAH]

martin14 martin14:

BRAH BRAH:

Meanwhile.

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Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan won't take questions on Brussels bombing on way out of cabinet. Says has to get pizza for his kids.

When is this guy going to resign ?

He's such an embarrassment already.

Liberal response be like. 1. How dare you question someone who served in the Military. 2. You're racist.

[PluggyRug]

Slavery, Terrorism and Islam by Dr. Peter Hammond.

From the book:

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As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

[N_Fiddledog]

Ahh...darn you PluggyRug. I was saving that for Del.

One can go through each country and double-check for juicy examples.

It's old though, so some of the numbers are off and the details are not always right on, but basically and generally...yeah...

[andyt]

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The prevalence of Islamist extremism in Belgium predates the incidents of the past year, as well as the advent of the Islamic State. And this is not the first time an Islamic State proxy has struck on Belgian soil: In May 2014, a gun-wielding French national who had spent time in Syria killed four people in the Jewish Museum of Brussels.

The root causes of radicalization are largely familiar: high unemployment, marginalization, discrimination and a sense of alienation from the wider society.

BuzzFeed's Joshua Hersh spent time in Molenbeek and came away with this picture of a downtrodden, disgruntled community:

Unlike the infamous banlieues of Paris — the rundown high-rise suburbs that symbolize France’s failure to integrate its own Muslim immigrant residents — Molenbeek is practically in the middle of Brussels; it’s just two metro stops west of the central train station. Still, Molenbeek can feel deeply isolated. The immigrants of Brussels, most of them Muslim and of North African descent, are highly concentrated there — the schools they attend, shunned by white Belgian families, are disparagingly referred to as “concentration schools,” after the high percentage of immigrants enrolled, and the poor conditions. “I didn’t believe it was this bad when I first started,” said a teacher who works at a mostly immigrant school near Molenbeek. “The schools, all they do is accentuate the problems the students face in their daily lives.”

Moreover, as my colleague Michael Birnbaum reported, Belgium's pronounced linguistic divisions between Dutch-speaking Flanders, the largely French-speaking city of Brussels and the region of Wallonia to the south have made it difficult for some immigrant groups to assimilate. This is particularly true of those living in Flanders, where far-right Flemish nationalist parties hold real sway and inveigh against the dangers of Islam.

“The Islamic State is giving them what the Belgian government can’t give them — identity, structure,” Montasser AlDe’emeh of the University of Antwerp told Birnbaum. “They don’t feel Moroccan or Belgian. They don’t feel part of either society.”

According to the Egmont report, the current crop of Belgian extremists are significantly younger than earlier generations, which went off to join the ranks of al-Qaeda and other fundamentalist groups. That radicalization is driven less by religious fervor than by more local factors, and it is shaped also by ties to gangs and other criminal activity:

Their acquaintance with religious thought is undoubtedly more shallow and superficial than their predecessors’, as is their acquaintance with international politics. Geopolitics is less important to them than it once was to their predecessors, who felt motivated by the struggle against the superpowers. Injustice was often a starting point with their predecessors’ journey towards extremism and terrorism. This has now largely been overshadowed by personal estrangement and motives as the primary engines of their journey

The report goes on to cite a top Belgian police official, who said the country in the past had been "mostly dealing with ‘radical Islamists’ — individuals radicalized toward violence by an extremist interpretation of Islam — but now we’re increasingly dealing with what are best described as ‘Islamized radicals.’"

Europe "has created the conditions for the resentment that drives the terrorists, but the vast majority of people in those conditions do not resort to terrorism," said Cas Mudde, an associate professor at the School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Georgia. "But it also doesn’t mean that simply destroying foreign terrorist threats like ISIS would get rid of the ‘Jihadi threat’ in Europe."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... cal-islam/


To repeat:

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Previously we were mostly dealing with 'radical Islamists' — individuals radicalized toward violence by an extremist interpretation of Islam — but now we’re increasingly dealing with what are best described as 'Islamized radicals.'

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11285254/b ... s-jihadism

[MeganC]

The dangers of Islam look pretty obvious to me!

[jimcanuck]

The Halal one is a funny one though... people haven't cared about how the food has ended up on their plate for ages, and the Halal thing is just a way to get at Muslims. I've lived in predominantly Muslim communities and spent a lot of time in Muslim communities across the world. I have never had one negative experience.

There is no way I condone any terrorism of any kind but the cycle of hate and war is just perpetual and doesn't look like stopping any time soon. Just means more war and more attacks.

[martin14]

Wow, another crock of shit from andy. No surprise.

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. The immigrants of Brussels, most of them Muslim and of North African descent, are highly concentrated there — the schools they attend, shunned by white Belgian families,

Yeah, yeah, automatic default, whitey bad. Muslims are just more dindu nuthins.

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Belgium's pronounced linguistic divisions between Dutch-speaking Flanders, the largely French-speaking city of Brussels and the region of Wallonia to the south have made it difficult for some immigrant groups to assimilate. This is particularly true of those living in Flanders, where far-right Flemish nationalist parties hold real sway and inveigh against the dangers of Islam.

Well, this is just rambling bullshit, there is no difference learning French or Dutch,
they are in the same language group.
It is equally difficult for Arabic speakers.
By this token, we shouldn't allow Muslims near Ottawa, being a bilingual region and all.


The rest of it is just your typical Whitey bad, it's all whitey's fault, if only we would spend more money, and we are not integrating them properly, and it needs more money.

But yes, it is now slowly coming out that the jihadis are using the criminal networks created in the Muslim neighborhoods, and when you see the most wanted guy in Europe walking around his home hood, and his buddies, and a large community of fifth columnists providing security and support.

[martin14]

Been watching reports of increased security world wide yesterday.

Photos of people with guns at airports in Holland, Germany, Austria, the US, etc.
Nothing from Canada though.


Sad. Another billion dollars of police overtime wasted. Guess what, YOU'RE TOO LATE.

Politicians talking about more police and more this and more that and of course more money.

But never do they mention or deal with the real problem.


If I was a jihadi hiding in my 'hood, I would be giggling like a little girl at just
how stupid the and impotent the West has become.

$200 of materiel and 3 guys to create this kind of chaos and idiocy.

Wonderful.

[Thanos]

martin14 martin14:

Been watching reports of increased security world wide yesterday.

Photos of people with guns at airports in Holland, Germany, Austria, the US, etc.
Nothing from Canada though.

Not a big deal because in past incidents they said they only wanted to kill Demon Harper.

[martin14]

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Prime suspect 'not arrested'
Posted at 12:20

A suspect arrested in Brussels this morning was not Najim Laachraoui, thought to be one of three men in a CCTV image taken before the Zaventem airport attack, some Belgian media are now saying

The newspaper, DH, which first reported the story, says the man detained earlier on Wednesday in the Anderlecht district had been misidentified.

Police and prosecutors have not commented on the reports and are due to hold a news conference within the next hour.

As usual, the Belgians have no idea what they are doing, and are unwilling to change it.

[martin14]

31 dead, 271 wounded.

Includes 5 European Commission people wounded.

Surprised it wasn't more.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

BRAH BRAH:

Meanwhile.

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Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan won't take questions on Brussels bombing on way out of cabinet. Says has to get pizza for his kids.

When is this guy going to resign ?

He's such an embarrassment already.

Did you mean Brah should resign? Because that headline isn't anywhere Google can find it.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Defence+ ... pizza+kids

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Defence+ ... pizza+kids

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

martin14 martin14:

When is this guy going to resign ?

He's such an embarrassment already.

Did you mean Brah should resign? Because that headline isn't anywhere Google can find it.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Defence+ ... pizza+kids

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Defence+ ... pizza+kids

She's a Parliament hill reporter, nice try.