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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:06 pm
CKA search is broke can't go past search through a users posts beyond page one then you get This page cannot be found HTTP 404 - File not found error, now I'm not going to search through 22,000 posts to prove a point. Anyways some out of context, selective and half quote spin results from just the first page of search. Doesn't it make you feel like bart feels all warm and fuzzy anout islam and muslims inside  I'm sure I could find even juicer stuff if I could search through all of ol bartys posts, btw reading through some of barts previous stuff sure shows how very enlighten an individual he is Bart I'm surprised you didn't blow from hatred from your long stay in the middle east ! BartSimpson BartSimpson: I'm impressed with the Burg Dubai tower, I'm making a blanket endorsement of Islam post1704179?hilit=%20islam#p1704179BartSimpson BartSimpson: Just because I have...love for the Muslims does not make me a Nazi. post1403803?hilit=%20love%20muslims#p1403803BartSimpson BartSimpson: But wouldn't you think that muslims, being the peace loving people that they are, would make wonderful hockey fans?  post1206734?hilit=%20love%20muslims#p1206734
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:22 pm
ok more playing around with the limited search options and I found a gem. selective quoting BartSimpson BartSimpson: I just love all.. Muslims post113298?hilit=%20love%20muslims#p113298Half quoting BartSimpson BartSimpson: I just love all this understanding and tolerance for the Muslims Even the selected half quote makes the reader thing bart has a very special and soft corner in his heart for us muslims 
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:23 pm
Oooooohhhhh boyo, you ought to read those quotes before crowing. Especially number two: $1: Just because I have no love for the Muslims (most of whom allied with those same Nazis of yours in WW2) does not make me a Nazi.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:24 pm
desertdude desertdude: ok more playing around with the limited search options and I found a gem. selective quoting BartSimpson BartSimpson: I just love all.. Muslims post113298?hilit=%20love%20muslims#p113298Half quoting BartSimpson BartSimpson: I just love all this understanding and tolerance for the Muslims Even the selected half quote makes the reader thing bart has a very special and soft corner in his heart for us muslims  My son, I think his sarcasm has been lost on you... 
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:28 pm
DesertDude, SprCForr is our designated moderator for this wager and I'll abide whatever he rules on this. Make your case with him, okay? 
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:30 pm
Anybody else want ketchup chips?  Might as well snack on something uniquely Canadian for this show.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:47 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny: To me this has less to do with freedom of religion, it has more to do with respecting the 3000 Americans and foriengers that dies on the site.
Plus I have had enough of Barack H. Obama lecturing me. That`s just you. It is about Freedom of Religion. I`m sure, Barrack reads these forums and it`s also likely he`s had enough of MD lecturing him.  Its not just me 68% of the USA feels the way I do about the mosque.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:57 pm
I don't remember me agreeing to anyone being moderator and the whole point of this exercise was to show you can totally manipulate and change the meaning of what one is trying to say and happens on a daily basis in the media nowadays I said I could make it look like you said you love all muslims using your own words and I did. Gunnair bud, you seem to be lost as it what is going on ! The point was to twist and manipulate barts words, and not what he was trying to say originally. Done very well by half quoting the last example which I am very well aware was a sarcastic quip Bart : You don't wanna pay up, fine with me.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:21 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:46 pm
desertdude desertdude: I don't remember me agreeing to anyone being moderator and the whole point of this exercise was to show you can totally manipulate and change the meaning of what one is trying to say and happens on a daily basis in the media nowadays I said I could make it look like you said you love all muslims using your own words and I did. Gunnair bud, you seem to be lost as it what is going on ! The point was to twist and manipulate barts words, and not what he was trying to say originally. Done very well by half quoting the last example which I am very well aware was a sarcastic quip Bart : You don't wanna pay up, fine with me. You said: desertdude desertdude: For example I'm sure I can quote you saying you love all muslims And I bet you $100 you couldn't as I've never said that, not even sarcastically. Rearranging my words is not quoting me by any stretch of the imagination. Having a moderator moderate a wager or a discussion is typical when you don't want to violate the site Terms of Use. Donny Brasco and I did the same two years ago and when I lost I paid up. Had he lost I've no doubt that he would've paid up. So are you conceding that you are unable to quote me saying what you said? 
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:31 pm
desertdude desertdude: Your on, gimme a moment to scan through your 22,000 ! posts. But wont take that long  I'd say that was acceptance of the terms of the bet as laid out by BS. I do agree that the search function is weak, so I've no problem giving you a few days to keep searching. The posts can't altered without us knowing as we have access to all the changes so rest assured there can't be any re-writes. If you have no intention of following through, say so plainly. Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:50 pm
I think the point that DD was making, was that words can be taken out context and be made to seemingly support something that is the complete opposite of what was intended. Based on the criteria stated before the wager was made, he made his point. If one hadn't read Bart's other comments on Islam and its adherents, you could interpret those bits and bytes as admiration.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:10 pm
desertdude desertdude: Anybody can be quoted out of context, half quoted to mean anything. For example I'm sure I can quote you saying you love all muslims  I agree SD, it looks like DD did in fact make his point quoted above including the qualifier "all".
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:02 pm
desertdude desertdude: Gunnair bud, you seem to be lost as it what is going on ! The point was to twist and manipulate barts words, and not what he was trying to say originally. Done very well by half quoting the last example which I am very well aware was a sarcastic quip Bart : You don't wanna pay up, fine with me. $1: Anybody can be quoted out of context, half quoted to mean anything. For example I'm sure I can quote you saying you love all muslims
Sorry boyo, but I don't believe half-quoting means you remove certain words within the sentance. So, the example I quoted, where you removed a word in the quote, is not a half quote or taking a quote out of context, it is changing the quote, which is quite different. If Bart had said: "I love Muslims. I think they would make a good luncheon meat." and you quoted him as saying "I love Muslims" then that is a half quote as you have taken a sentance without rearranging or removing words. All you did was take a sentance and remove key words to suit your agenda. Nice try, but that is simply a desperate attempt to avoid failing. 
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:52 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: I think the point that DD was making, was that words can be taken out context and be made to seemingly support something that is the complete opposite of what was intended. Based on the criteria stated before the wager was made, he made his point. If one hadn't read Bart's other comments on Islam and its adherents, you could interpret those bits and bytes as admiration. I disagree. The bet was this: $1: desertdude wrote: For example I'm sure I can quote you saying you love all muslims not this: $1: I bet I can take a number of quotes and MANUFACTURE you saying you love all muslims. A half quote isnt a quote. The rest of it, by ommission or changing, is just manufacturing. The bet was : $1: desertdude wrote: For example I'm sure I can quote you saying you love all muslims No such quote by Bart exists.. we all know this 
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