[Proculation]

Seize the plants ? We live in Canada, not in Cuba or Venezuela.

[stemmer]

Don't laugh the Amero is coming and it is Council on Foreign Relations bending to the will of consumer greed that is making it happen...

[Yogi]

Maybe if the auto manufacturers got 'back to the basics' they would see sales improve immensley. Instead of every vehicle rolling off the line with every conceivable option, they were to send out a few vehicles just 'bare-bones'. Then if the buyer wanted to add extras they would have that choice.
For my line of work, I need a full size cargo van. Even 'looked after' it is going to take a beating. It needs to be 'practical, not pretty'!
Air, cruise, tilt, power seats, power windows, heated seats, heated mirrors, Sirius, on-star, lots of chrome and plastic are not necessities. These all only add to the price and I ain't buying!
I was just looking around and found the '09 Sprinter, base price of $38,000+ U.S.D. They go up in price from there! As a 'small business' man, I cannot justify the cost, given the conditions of many of the roads and sites that this vehicle would have to travel on.
In these times of restraint, people want value for there money. It is a time to '
put the luxuries aside, and concentrate on the necessities.

[stemmer]

Yogi - you raise some very valid points... And I salute you for not trying to turn this post into another "imports are better" or "NA cars are crap" rant...

[Yogi]

I think that I am in the majority when I say 'All we want is good, dependable transportation at a reasonable price. Until such time as that becomes available I will continue to buy 'used vans' for work, and perform due-diligence on my pick-up. I baby that truck! I bought it new in '02 and the odometer just turned over to 97,500 kliks. A comparable truck today would cost me about $50,000! How could I possibly justify such an expense? Until the auto manufacturers and auto workers 'get on the same page with me' they are S.O.L.

[mtbr]

stemmer stemmer:

Yogi - you raise some very valid points... And I salute you for not trying to turn this post into another "imports are better" or "NA cars are crap" rant...

GM sucks no matter how you slice it

[ziggy]

Yogi Yogi:

I think that I am in the majority when I say 'All we want is good, dependable transportation at a reasonable price. Until such time as that becomes available I will continue to buy 'used vans' for work, and perform due-diligence on my pick-up. I baby that truck! I bought it new in '02 and the odometer just turned over to 97,500 kliks. A comparable truck today would cost me about $50,000! How could I possibly justify such an expense? Until the auto manufacturers and auto workers 'get on the same page with me' they are S.O.L.

I have an 87 chev 4x4 beater with new fuel tank and a fairly new 350 efi i'll sell for a grand Yogi.The engine was replaced a few years ago and though it hasnt been run for months it was a new engine right from chev.
It would be a good parts or farm truck and also has 4 near new bf goodrich studded winter tires.

[Yogi]

ziggy ziggy:

Yogi Yogi:

I think that I am in the majority when I say 'All we want is good, dependable transportation at a reasonable price. Until such time as that becomes available I will continue to buy 'used vans' for work, and perform due-diligence on my pick-up. I baby that truck! I bought it new in '02 and the odometer just turned over to 97,500 kliks. A comparable truck today would cost me about $50,000! How could I possibly justify such an expense? Until the auto manufacturers and auto workers 'get on the same page with me' they are S.O.L.

I have an 87 chev 4x4 beater with new fuel tank and a fairly new 350 efi i'll sell for a grand Yogi.The engine was replaced a few years ago and though it hasnt been run for months it was a new engine right from chev.
It would be a good parts or farm truck and also has 4 near new bf goodrich studded winter tires.

Very tempting Zig. But I drive full-length vans cuz I need to keep 12 ft rolls and my tools warm and dry. Someone would likely 'snap that up' for a huntin buggy!

[stemmer]

Yeah...you're one proud Canadian willing to sell his sovereignty for glitzy mports. You're no different then the native Americans who sold Manhatten Island for some gawdy beads...

Wife went to the grocery store. Picked up a bottle of baby dill pickles. Got 'em home and they had printed in small print 'made in India'..... Nothing is made in this county anymore...

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Yogi Yogi:

ziggy ziggy:

Yogi Yogi:

I think that I am in the majority when I say 'All we want is good, dependable transportation at a reasonable price. Until such time as that becomes available I will continue to buy 'used vans' for work, and perform due-diligence on my pick-up. I baby that truck! I bought it new in '02 and the odometer just turned over to 97,500 kliks. A comparable truck today would cost me about $50,000! How could I possibly justify such an expense? Until the auto manufacturers and auto workers 'get on the same page with me' they are S.O.L.

I have an 87 chev 4x4 beater with new fuel tank and a fairly new 350 efi i'll sell for a grand Yogi.The engine was replaced a few years ago and though it hasnt been run for months it was a new engine right from chev.
It would be a good parts or farm truck and also has 4 near new bf goodrich studded winter tires.

Very tempting Zig. But I drive full-length vans cuz I need to keep 12 ft rolls and my tools warm and dry. Someone would likely 'snap that up' for a huntin buggy!

It even has the bumper sticker.
Say no to kyoto,wheat board and gun control.

[Yogi]

ziggy ziggy:

Yogi Yogi:

ziggy ziggy:

I think that I am in the majority when I say 'All we want is good, dependable transportation at a reasonable price. Until such time as that becomes available I will continue to buy 'used vans' for work, and perform due-diligence on my pick-up. I baby that truck! I bought it new in '02 and the odometer just turned over to 97,500 kliks. A comparable truck today would cost me about $50,000! How could I possibly justify such an expense? Until the auto manufacturers and auto workers 'get on the same page with me' they are S.O.L.

I have an 87 chev 4x4 beater with new fuel tank and a fairly new 350 efi i'll sell for a grand Yogi.The engine was replaced a few years ago and though it hasnt been run for months it was a new engine right from chev.
It would be a good parts or farm truck and also has 4 near new bf goodrich studded winter tires.

Very tempting Zig. But I drive full-length vans cuz I need to keep 12 ft rolls and my tools warm and dry. Someone would likely 'snap that up' for a huntin buggy!

It even has the bumper sticker.
Say no to kyoto,wheat board and gun control. [/quote]

Does it still have the 'Have You Slugged Your Kid Today?' sticker???

[mtbr]

stemmer stemmer:

Yeah...you're one proud Canadian willing to sell his sovereignty for glitzy mports. You're no different then the native Americans who sold Manhatten Island for some gawdy beads...

Wife went to the grocery store. Picked up a bottle of baby dill pickles. Got 'em home and they had printed in small print 'made in India'..... Nothing is made in this county anymore...

not true , but I'll never buy anything that says GM on it since its probably made in China.

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Yogi said

$1:

Does it still have the 'Have You Slugged Your Kid Today?' sticker???

It was my stepdads truck,I pulled that one off after the first beating.

[ShepherdsDog]

Buy Toyota. There's more chance that all the parts are North American made...which is why Toyota has more right to be in NASCAR than some of the other 'North American' makes.

[stemmer]

mtbr mtbr:

not true , but I'll never buy anything that says GM on it since its probably made in China.

Your one IDIOT... Please saunter over to the Corvette Forum and post nonsense like that...

BUT what is true is the fact Toyota is being investigated for human trafficking slave labour from China...