[hwacker]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Just dont do it before they are born eh hwacker, just throwing it out there.

are you trying to merge the 2 threads ?

[HyperionTheEvil]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

He is a Canadian, born Canadian, no one can deny that. The problem is, Canada should have stepped in well before this. The reasons why is, he is a child soldier in need of rehabilitation and removal from his family that put him in that situation, he has been imprisoned without due process which is every Canadians constitutional right, and now he will come back as an angry adult that has endured brainwashing, war, killing, and torture at the hands of both family and captures. He will undoubtedly side with the family that led him into becoming a brainwashed child soldier and be even more hateful against the very thing they hate. This makes him a very scary and dangerous individual if his case is not handled properly in this country. Like it or not he will be coming back. Deprogramming and separation from his family, which IMO is vile to put a child in that situation, needs to be done...if it isnt too late.

Actually no we shouldnt have, in every foreign country that a Candian steps into we are obliged to obey thier laws. In this case the government afghanistan agreed legally that he could be tried in a US miltary court

That being said im all with you on the question of removing him from his parents,however these days we've have an archaic throwback in a Charter where as long as you cloak your words in religion, you can pretty much say and teach anything. His father and entire family have been indoctrinated into believing what they do through islam. One can call it brainwashing. That being said with the 'protections' that we have for religion he reasonably thought that a mythical god was telling him to do what he did, it;s irrantonal approach that but religions own defence of it's perogatives of 'expression' in all it's form that should leave them responsbile for what is said, written and taught by them, ergo if you intentinally decide to take collective leave of your senses by ascribing to some make beileve religion, you must be prapred to accept the consequences of your actions

[HyperionTheEvil]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

Geneva Conventions - Additional Protocols, 1977

Protocol I - International Armed Conflicts

Article 77 Protection of Children....

77.2. The Parties to the conflict shall take all feasible measures in order that children who have not attained the age of fifteen years do not take a direct part in hostilities and, in particular, they shall refrain from recruiting them into their armed forces. In recruiting among those persons who have attained the age of fifteen years but who have not attained the age of eighteen years the Parties to the conflict shall endeavour to give priority to those who are oldest.

77.3. If, in exceptional cases, despite the provisions of paragraph 2, children who have not attained the age of fifteen years take a direct part in hostilities and fall into the power of an adverse Party, they shall continue to benefit from the special protection accorded by this Article, whether or not they are prisoners of war.

Protocol II - Non-International Armed Conflicts

Article 4

4. 3 (c) children who have not attained the age of fifteen years shall neither be recruited in the armed forces or groups nor allowed to take part in hostilities;

(d) the special protection provided by this Article to children who have not attained the age of fifteen years shall remain applicable to them if they take a direct part in hostilities despite the provisions of subparagraph (c) and are captured;

(e) measures shall be taken, if necessary, and whenever possible with the consent of their parents or persons who by law or custom are primarily responsible for their care, to remove children temporarily from the area in which hostilities are taking place to a safer area within the country and ensure that they are accompanied by persons responsible for their safety and well-being.

Problem is that he was 15 whenhe was captured, this is not to mention that there is a total ban on children in war

[martin14]

and he was there with consent of parents/family,
and not removed from the area.

[Scape]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Scape Scape:

No one asked him to murder a medic in the name of Canada. Fuck him.

That's surprising unenlightened coming from you Scape. He's a Canadian kid brainwashed into war and he killed a medic in combat.

No one asked the thousands of Americans who flocked to Canada in WWI to join us to fight the Germans.

No one asked the Americans who joined the Canadian Military in WWII in 1939 and no one asked the Canadians to join the US Army to fight in Vietnam or Iraq.

I'm curious of your opinion on what is the fundemental difference.

No one asked him to fight for Canada vs our own allies. Again, fuck him. He is the enemy. The US should have just shot the basturd but are dealing with him as they see fit. We have zero say in the matter and where he is born has no bearing on his crime vs them.

[Gunnair]

hwacker hwacker:

Na, the gun just went off. shit happens.

Brilliant...

[Gunnair]

Scape Scape:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Scape Scape:

No one asked him to murder a medic in the name of Canada. Fuck him.

That's surprising unenlightened coming from you Scape. He's a Canadian kid brainwashed into war and he killed a medic in combat.

No one asked the thousands of Americans who flocked to Canada in WWI to join us to fight the Germans.

No one asked the Americans who joined the Canadian Military in WWII in 1939 and no one asked the Canadians to join the US Army to fight in Vietnam or Iraq.

I'm curious of your opinion on what is the fundemental difference.

No one asked him to fight for Canada vs our own allies. Again, fuck him. He is the enemy. The US should have just shot the basturd but are dealing with him as they see fit. We have zero say in the matter and where he is born has no bearing on his crime vs them.

Well that clears it up.