[kenmore]

not this one

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[commanderkai]

Phew, Mr. Canada and Kenmore sure love their photoshops, since I totally missed the time Bush wore anything with should pads that resemble a military commander.

[ManifestDestiny]

I cant beleive this stupid topic is still alive.

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[Johnny_Utah]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

I cant beleive this stupid topic is still alive.

Believe it, because the actions of one Soldier the Anti-American Circle Jerk are using this thread to once again post their Anti-American Rants..

[kenmore]

oh ya... anti american... just shows the intelligence of some american soldiers.. if it was a soldier from someplace else you would be spouting off there johnny part time canadian..

[BartSimpson]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Has anyone got any old quran's they don't want...I need them for my winter woodstove.

Which would be a waste of good toilet paper.

If I caught a soldier shooting at a koran the only comments I'd have would be on the range. Shooting a koran at anything less than 100 yards would be a waste of ammo.

[BartSimpson]

lily lily:

How about if it was a Bible? Or a flag?

Happens all the time. I've gotten used to it.

If the muslims don't like their book getting burned, shot, or used for personal hygiene then too flippin' bad; welcome to the real world. If I have to put up with hippies and atheists burning the flag and desecrating the Bible then why should the muslims be treated any different? Or are you saying that the koran is somehow superior to the Bible?

[Zipperfish]

I guess it just shows clearly what a bunch of crap the whole "hearts and minds" thing was and what a lod of bull the "we're doing this for the good of all Iraqis" was. It was an invasion for oil and power, pure and simple. Good, old-fashioned avarice.

[kenmore]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I guess it just shows clearly what a bunch of crap the whole "hearts and minds" thing was and what a lod of bull the "we're doing this for the good of all Iraqis" was. It was an invasion for oil and power, pure and simple. Good, old-fashioned avarice.

well said Zipperfish.. right on!

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I guess it just shows clearly what a bunch of crap the whole "hearts and minds" thing was and what a lod of bull the "we're doing this for the good of all Iraqis" was. It was an invasion for oil and power, pure and simple. Good, old-fashioned avarice.

All wars are about power. That's the point.

If this were just about oil we'd have never invaded Iraq in 1991. Hussein wasn't planning on cutting off Kuwaiti oil.

It would have been far cheaper to let Hussein have Kuwait and Saudi Arabia than to invade at such great expense and then disrupt the oil markets.

Thinking about it, if I had to do it all over again, I'd have let Hussein have Kuwait and SA as that would have been the end of Arab financing of Al Qaeda.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I guess it just shows clearly what a bunch of crap the whole "hearts and minds" thing was and what a lod of bull the "we're doing this for the good of all Iraqis" was. It was an invasion for oil and power, pure and simple. Good, old-fashioned avarice.

All wars are about power. That's the point.

If this were just about oil we'd have never invaded Iraq in 1991. Hussein wasn't planning on cutting off Kuwaiti oil.

It would have been far cheaper to let Hussein have Kuwait and Saudi Arabia than to invade at such great expense and then disrupt the oil markets.

Thinking about it, if I had to do it all over again, I'd have let Hussein have Kuwait and SA as that would have been the end of Arab financing of Al Qaeda.

All wars may be about power--that doesn't make all wars morally equivalent. This was an agressive war aimed, among other things, at removing an irritant to the US, expanding US hegemony in the area and securing access to oil for the US. Itw as sold as a philanthroipic war dsespite the fact that it is ebidenbt mnow that the war was based on a bunch of lies. It's just sad that the American people, for all their talk of their vaunted freedom, are as easily manipulated by their masters as the Chinese.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

All wars may be about power--that doesn't make all wars morally equivalent. This was an agressive war aimed, among other things, at removing an irritant to the US, expanding US hegemony in the area and securing access to oil for the US. Itw as sold as a philanthroipic war dsespite the fact that it is ebidenbt mnow that the war was based on a bunch of lies. It's just sad that the American people, for all their talk of their vaunted freedom, are as easily manipulated by their masters as the Chinese.

Who the hell are you and what did you do with Zip?

Seriously, I've never expected you to start filling your posts with talking points from the psycho ward of the left.

The majority of Iraqi oil still is parcelled out according to the contracts extant on this 2004 chart so I'm unsure where you got the idea that the US invaded to secure oil for ourselves. The USA is the #26 recipient of Iraq oil according to the UN.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

All wars may be about power--that doesn't make all wars morally equivalent. This was an agressive war aimed, among other things, at removing an irritant to the US, expanding US hegemony in the area and securing access to oil for the US. Itw as sold as a philanthroipic war dsespite the fact that it is ebidenbt mnow that the war was based on a bunch of lies. It's just sad that the American people, for all their talk of their vaunted freedom, are as easily manipulated by their masters as the Chinese.

Who the hell are you and what did you do with Zip?

Seriously, I've never expected you to start filling your posts with talking points from the psycho ward of the left.

The majority of Iraqi oil still is parcelled out according to the contracts extant on this 2004 chart so I'm unsure where you got the idea that the US invaded to secure oil for ourselves. The USA is the #26 recipient of Iraq oil according to the UN.

Not only that, my post was completely garbled (I was on my way out the door). Anyways, psycho left stuff though it may be, I've never really changed my position that the Iraq War was based on lies and was never meant to benefit the Iraqi people.

And keep in mind that it's not only the left that is irritaed with George Bush and his cadre of liars and incompetents, but the right as well. After all, war is not a private enterprise. It comes out of the pockets of US taxpayers most of whom, I'm sure, could have put to other uses the thousands of dollars that Bush took from their pockets to wage a war for his oil buddies. Not to mention his attack on freedom in the name of security and his generally wastrel ways with taxpayers' money.

As for it being about oil--I'm in good company. Alan Greesnpan said as much last September. I wasn't aware that Alan Greenspan was a member of the loony left. The war clearly was not about Al Qeada or WMD. Reconstrcution contracts went solely to supporters of the Iraq invasion--and that's done wonders for Halliburton stocks. But the reason isn't so much instant access to Iraqi oil as it is a permannent military presence near the Strait of Hormuz.