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[Winnipegger]

Oh come on guys. The native peoples several centuries ago made their own clothes from materials they could harvest. European people did the same, but had different styles. So Europeans used cotton and wool instead of leather; tell me seriously which is the higher quality material. Most European people lived in what we would consider today to be third world conditions: log cabins or mud huts roofed with straw thatch, heating by wood fireplace, no insulation, and low income people lived with their animals. The animals had to be kept warm in winter or they would freeze to death. The celebrated voyageurs of western Canada subsisted off a diet of pemmican, a high energy food that they could carry with them when travelling across country; think of it as 17th century fast food. Pemmican is rended fat mixed with jerky that was ground to a powder. Sometimes dried berries were added for flavour: saskatoon berries, cranberries, blueberries, or choke cherries. The berries would add vitamins; I'm not sure whether they understood that at the time. Wikipedia says the rended fat (heat until the fat is melted) was mixed with jerky 50/50, but the historic site here in Winnipeg said they typically had more fat and less meat. Voyageurs didn't live a long life, heavy dangerous work and malnutrition.

Rich European people wore clothing we would consider strange. The doublet started as a gambeson, a quilted padded jacket worn under armour. In the 14th and 15th centuries they were generally hip-length tight-fitting jackets worn over a shirt and hose (tights). In the late 16th century they were worn with a skirt and hose or breeches. Breeches were pants that ended just below the knee; shins were still covered with hose.


In the 17th century, Europeans wore the doublet with puffy sleeves, slashed so you could see shirt sleeves. They usually wore breeches, which had a fly laced with a bright coloured ribbon tied with an elaborate bow at the waist.


Modern clothing is quite different than any of that. Neither native people nor those of European descent wear clothing from 1492-1800. We wear modern clothing that was invented here, things like a T-shirt and jeans. Although the modern suit evolved from the doublet, I think most people would agree it's quite different. Modern clothing is just Canadian; not white or native, just Canadian.

[Donny_Brasco]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

$1:

You think you can just get out of this by bad mouthing us and telling us what your version of "right" is? Like I said before, come tell the judge. We are always pleased to hear from folks like you, makes the judges a little more generous when handing out these lawsuit dollars.

God, you are such a clown. No argument, nothing except "Oh, but, uh... The UN said so! ". You have no argument at all here, other then "It doesn't matter what you think, we get the money."

Freaking pathetic.

Let me get this right,

I'm pathetic because the courts have sided with many of the First Nations land claims?

And you have some sort of say in this because ...ummm... remind me how or why your arguement has anything to do with what is reality.

Our claims are not settled out of pity, they are settled because we have proof that passes the test of Canadian law that we were cheated and defrauded out of land.

If I come take your trailer why you are off at your KKK meeting does that mean I conquored you? And I have the legal right to keep your belongings?

If we as Indians are indeed canadians as you claim, then shouldn't the same laws that protect you from me - protect me from you? So if someone in the 1930's stole land from us that my family could have used to farm or hunt to provide for themselves...that is just too bad forus? and if we can prove that land was indeed land that should have been ours and can prove it was taken illegally...that is still too bad for us?

And it makes no difference to you that we could have farmed and provided four ourselves instead of being stuck with nothing being dependent on welfare paid for out of your tax dollars - you don't care?

Why are you angry at us? You let crimes against us slide your whole system changes - it's called case law.

If your as civilized as you claim then you would have realized that by now. But your not, now are you.

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[Thanos]

$1:

Because you scumbags are destroying Canada and stealing from Canadians who never touched you. All your enemies are dead. So you have your revenge. End it, then me and fellow Canadians won't be so passionately angry.

Mr. Canada for Post Of The Year Award. Two thumbs up!

[Wada]

I hadn't realized that CKA was about "white trash" talking out their asses.

[Donny_Brasco]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Let me get this right,

I'm pathetic because the courts have sided with many of the First Nations land claims?

No, you are pathetic because that's all you have.

So if I have your laws backing me up...what do you have?

[commanderkai]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Let me get this right,

I'm pathetic because the courts have sided with many of the First Nations land claims?

No, you are pathetic because that's all you have.

So if I have your laws backing me up...what do you have?

History and truth.

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[Wada]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Let me get this right,

I'm pathetic because the courts have sided with many of the First Nations land claims?

No, you are pathetic because that's all you have.

So if I have your laws backing me up...what do you have?

History and truth.

Exactly, and thank you.

Canadians arguing against this Native bullshit understand the abuse of compensation by Natives. We understand that the PAST is the PAST. I won't dwell on something that happened to my grandfather. That would be HIS problem.

And like I said Donny, I do believe in some compensation. For the true victims, not the entire fucking race. If YOU were in a Residential School and abused, fine, you deserve something. An apology.

But listen here. This system is WRONG.

Natives are being paid for being born Native. That's RACIST. People who were never wronged are being compensated just because of their race, which is RACIST. Canadians of all other colours are forced to pay taxes for this, which is, again, RACIST.

I don't suppose you'd consider changing your Mr. Canada alias, would you? Your embarrassing to Canada and me.

[commanderkai]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Let me get this right,

I'm pathetic because the courts have sided with many of the First Nations land claims?

No, you are pathetic because that's all you have.

So if I have your laws backing me up...what do you have?

History and truth.

Exactly, and thank you.

Canadians arguing against this Native bullshit understand the abuse of compensation by Natives. We understand that the PAST is the PAST. I won't dwell on something that happened to my grandfather. That would be HIS problem.

And like I said Donny, I do believe in some compensation. For the true victims, not the entire fucking race. If YOU were in a Residential School and abused, fine, you deserve something. An apology.

But listen here. This system is WRONG.

Natives are being paid for being born Native. That's RACIST. People who were never wronged are being compensated just because of their race, which is RACIST. Canadians of all other colours are forced to pay taxes for this, which is, again, RACIST.

Completely agreed. This goes for all races. This is why I think affirmative action is also pathetic.

Almost every minority in this country has been oppressed in one way or another. Rampant antisemitism during the buildup to WWII basically led to the death of tens of thousands of Jews, when we refused to take them here as they escape Nazi tyranny.

Japanese Canadians, with probably some Germans and Italians, were sent to internment camps during the Second World War (I don't fully think this was completely evil, but the whole destroying and seizing their property was wrong. I digress however)

There are alot of races and ethnic groups have been treated poorly. But those Japanese only got token settlements over 50 years after WWII, and I haven't heard that many Japanese children and grandchildren have whined to the government for free land and taxes.

I am not denying history. We fucked your people over, killed you, ripped you off, relocated you, etc etc. However, that was in the past, and its not coming back...however doing these armed insurrections against our country might get you a few million now, but all it does is create resentment, and just opens the door for you to get nothing at all.

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[Donny_Brasco]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

$1:

Our claims are not settled out of pity, they are settled because we have proof that passes the test of Canadian law that we were cheated and defrauded out of land.

*yawns* I bet more then half of these claims for land are bullshit. After all, where's the papers? So your father mumbled something about his ancestors while on an amazing trip on cleaning fluid, oh well.

I'll take that bet. The measure is if the claim is settled or won in court - point for me. If the claim is rejected point for you. $1000.00 a point now until what...2018?

Or would you like to change the rules - scared that your own system is not fair?