[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Your intent is clear. I really don't know who you think you're fooling. The president of my union, with some 57,000 members, makes around $160,000. No overtime, and working a lot of long days. Show me a CEO with 57,000 staff that takes $160K a year. Your point was ludicrous to start with.

The President of your union doesn't have 57,000 people working for him. They are not his "staff". Your President doesn't make business decisions that will affect all 57,000 people, much like a CEO does.

Apples to oranges.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

JaredMilne JaredMilne:

That's one of the things that worries me about the current economic model-if we're constantly told that we need to become leaner in our salaries and our expectations from government in order to remain competitive, how can most of us be expected to contribute meaningfully to the economy through consumer spending?

Vast amounts of debt.

^^ That!

The rise of equity home loans is a pretty good indicator.

[Zipperfish]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Your intent is clear. I really don't know who you think you're fooling. The president of my union, with some 57,000 members, makes around $160,000. No overtime, and working a lot of long days. Show me a CEO with 57,000 staff that takes $160K a year. Your point was ludicrous to start with.

The President of your union doesn't have 57,000 people working for him. They are not his "staff". Your President doesn't make business decisions that will affect all 57,000 people, much like a CEO does.

Apples to oranges.

Still for an organization that size, $160K doesn't seem unreasonable and doesn't put the president in with the the 1%-ers.

[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Still for an organization that size, $160K doesn't seem unreasonable and doesn't put the president in with the the 1%-ers.

His "organization" isn't that big. Again, those people don't work for him, he works for them.

My point was, some of these union leaders are part of the 1%'ers. That point, isn't false nor ridiculous.

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

My point was, some of these union leaders are part of the 1%'ers. That point, isn't false nor ridiculous.

No, no, of course not. The sky is blue.

And none of the salaries you listed were in the 1%. You like to dismiss links that are not totally current, yet here you are using them yourself. How about some consistency here.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

And none of the salaries you listed were in the 1%. You like to dismiss links that are not totally current, yet here you are using them yourself. How about some consistency here.

You're right, those salaries weren't in the 1%.

However, you and Zip, ignore that those numbers are 12-14 years old. If you take basic inflation into play, many are in that 1% group today.

Current numbers aren't available because they don't provide them openly.

[Lemmy]

Why don't you just admit you were wrong, OTI? Union bosses make a good living. Most make $100K+. None make $200K plus. They're not fat cats. They're not living high on their members' hogs. You exaggerated and got called on it. Move on.

[OnTheIce]

Correction, a friend just turned me onto a great website.

A couple examples:

United Food & Commercial Workers
https://www.unionfacts.com/union/United ... eaders-tab

American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations
https://www.unionfacts.com/union/AFL-CIO#leaders-tab


Lots of the Union leadership in the US is part of the 1%.

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Why don't you just admit you were wrong, OTI? Union bosses make a good living. Most make $100K+. None make $200K plus. They're not fat cats. They're not living high on their members' hogs. You exaggerated and got called on it. Move on.

You're wrong. Again.

See above.

Move on.

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

You're wrong. Again.

Yup, I'm wrong. I thought I lived in Canada.

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

You're wrong. Again.

Yup, I'm wrong. I thought I lived in Canada.

Good thing you mentioned that.

Many of these unions noted are well established in Canada. Much like the Canadian Boilermakers who's president took in a cool $437,419 in salary alone.

And how about those Teamsters, also in Canada. Mr. James Hoffa taking in $381k.

Nope, no fat cats in those unions.

[Lemmy]

Yeah, James "Don't Call Me Jimmy" Hoffa...

[Zipperfish]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

And none of the salaries you listed were in the 1%. You like to dismiss links that are not totally current, yet here you are using them yourself. How about some consistency here.

You're right, those salaries weren't in the 1%.

However, you and Zip, ignore that those numbers are 12-14 years old. If you take basic inflation into play, many are in that 1% group today.

Current numbers aren't available because they don't provide them openly.

The number I provided wasn't 12 years old. It was last year.

[OnTheIce]

How about the beloved Sid Ryan of the OFL? Only a mere $350k/year for him.

[OnTheIce]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

The number I provided wasn't 12 years old. It was last year.

The numbers we're referring to were posted by someone else earlier in the topic.