[PublicAnimalNo9]

Brenda Brenda:

I never seen a basketball player or soccer player with full gear either. Maybe those rules are good rules.

I'm sorry, but when a so called "sport" needs full protective gear, the fun is gone as far as I am concerned.
ESPECIALLY for kids.

That protective gear isn't just for body checking. There's a frozen rubber disk that can reach speeds of over 100mph. We've seen what can happen when that puck hits an unprotected part of the body.

[ShepherdsDog]

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[PENATRATOR]

Name calling now Brenda? My it's quite sad what you have slipped to when BS is called on your unfounded comments.

In review, I did not disagree with you, I merely pointed out your extensive lack of knowledge on the subject matter which you made quite obvious with your comments. Anybody with even a slight knowledge of the sport would agree you were out in left field on. Once again, you are shot down, can't handle it, so you avoid the topic at hand and resort to

a. calling someone anti immigrant
b. calling someone an asshole


Geez, I've recieved infractions for far less than that from Old Scape

[OnTheIce]

PENATRATOR PENATRATOR:

Exactly, you did, but as we've grown accustomed to you continue to run your lips in an area you have clearly demonstrated to have ZERO knowledge of.

It's a common trend with Brenda. Jack of all trades, master of none.

As you said, kids have tons of extra protection and anyone who knows anything about minor hockey would know that.

[Brenda]

I never said the protective gear was only for body checking.

I take it it must by my ESL or something, because you can't be so stupid that you think I said that.

*shrugs*

[Canadian_Mind]

I grew up playing rugby & contact football at school, and hockey &horseback riding at home while growing up.

The only serious injuries I ever received doing any of those (ie beyond the occasional sprain or a small break) was while horseback riding. I couldn't count with all my fingers and toes how many bones I've broken doing that because every one of my fingers and toes have snapped at one point doing that, busted ribs, dislocations, etc.

Strangely enough, none of the contact sports ever kept me out of school or doing my job. Just the very act of owning horses and going trail-riding has.

Contact sports aren't the problem. Improper methods playing them is. All the more reason why we should be starting out from a very young age in order to properly teach our kids to give and take a hit.

But even then, you will never have no risk. So this is the trade off, do we minimize risk for the sake of preventing injury, but also preventing our kids from ever aspiring to anything, or should we accept that our kids need to take risks and be risked in order to get anywhere in life?

I'm lucky to have grown up in the tail end of the era where falling off a bike didn't require a doctors visit, playground equipment was made from wood, rusty metal, & old tyres, and I learned how to deal with strangers by walking to school by myself. Today's golden age of over-protected children, while producing intelligent people, is producing a generation of people who just don't know how to let go of the safety of their parent's care. They have no concept and no experience of handling risk, pain, and just generally doing things on their own, and it's going to fuck them over in the long term.

[2Cdo]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I grew up playing rugby & contact football at school, and hockey &horseback riding at home while growing up.

The only serious injuries I ever received doing any of those (ie beyond the occasional sprain or a small break) was while horseback riding. I couldn't count with all my fingers and toes how many bones I've broken doing that because every one of my fingers and toes have snapped at one point doing that, busted ribs, dislocations, etc.

Strangely enough, none of the contact sports ever kept me out of school or doing my job. Just the very act of owning horses and going trail-riding has.

Contact sports aren't the problem. Improper methods playing them is. All the more reason why we should be starting out from a very young age in order to properly teach our kids to give and take a hit.

But even then, you will never have no risk. So this is the trade off, do we minimize risk for the sake of preventing injury, but also preventing our kids from ever aspiring to anything, or should we accept that our kids need to take risks and be risked in order to get anywhere in life?

I'm lucky to have grown up in the tail end of the era where falling off a bike didn't require a doctors visit, playground equipment was made from wood, rusty metal, & old tyres, and I learned how to deal with strangers by walking to school by myself. Today's golden age of over-protected children, while producing intelligent people, is producing a generation of people who just don't know how to let go of the safety of their parent's care. They have no concept and no experience of handling risk, pain, and just generally doing things on their own, and it's going to fuck them over in the long term.

Well said, but I doubt if certain people on this thread will understand.

[Gunnair]

Played rugby and soccar and lacrosse in school with no protective gear. Mud dragging only required a helme.

Survived all and did worse to my brain with rum.

I get the concerns, but rough contact is a part of hockey and teaching kids once they reach a certain age how to do it right is the realistic approach. Hell, even ball hockey has contact so enough already.

Frankly, if parents are concerned, then they find something else for their kids to do.

[PENATRATOR]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Well said, but I doubt if certain people on this thread will understand.

[2Cdo]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Survived all and did worse to my brain with rum.

Mine was rye whiskey!

$1:

I get the concerns, but rough contact is a part of hockey and teaching kids once they reach a certain age how to do it right is the realistic approach. Hell, even ball hockey has contact so enough already.

I still think it's even more important to teach kids how to TAKE a hit. I thank God that I had excellent coachs as a youngster who spent a great deal of time teaching us that. In over 30 years of playing I never got injured being LEGALLY checked, cheap shots and stickwork are another story. I lost count of how many stiches I recieved over the years, thankfully though I still have all my real teeth!

$1:

Frankly, if parents are concerned, then they find something else for their kids to do.

Wrap them in bubble wrap and never let them leave the house!

[Brenda]

Ya need to wear a helmet to ride a bike. That's not overprotective? I am just saying.

[Canadian_Mind]

Brenda Brenda:

Ya need to wear a helmet to ride a bike. That's not overprotective? I am just saying.

And the helmet, chest-protector, and various other pads of hockey players aren't either. Hence why the vast majority of the time people don't get hurt when they get checked.

But just like teaching kids how to give and take a hit, kids are going to get hurt learning how to ride a bike. It's inevitable unless the kid is forever using training wheels. That's why you wear a helmet riding a bike, and one of the reasons why you wear all that gear while playing hockey. Cause in the process of learning, kids will get hurt. But guess what, they'll heal, it's what kids do. That 1 in 240 accident that causes a permanent injury, disability, or death, that sucks, but that's the risk. About the same risk involved teaching a kid how to ride a bike, strangely enough. Even with the helmet.

I like the bubble-wrap comment above. Are we going to make our kids learn how to ride bikes wearing 50 pounds of protective gear to prevent every possible injury from happening?

Maybe we should outlaw bike riding? Some kid might fall over and scrape his fucking elbow.

[Brenda]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Brenda Brenda:

Ya need to wear a helmet to ride a bike. That's not overprotective? I am just saying.

And the helmet, chest-protector, and various other pads of hockey players aren't either. Hence why the vast majority of the time people don't get hurt when they get checked.

I am certainly not saying that hockey gear is overprotective.

$1:

But just like teaching kids how to give and take a hit, kids are going to get hurt learning how to ride a bike. It's inevitable unless the kid is forever using training wheels.

Ehmm, I disagree.
They fall on their knees and hands, but rarely on their heads...

$1:

That's why you wear a helmet riding a bike, and one of the reasons why you wear all that gear while playing hockey. Cause in the process of learning, kids will get hurt. But guess what, they'll heal, it's what kids do. That 1 in 240 accident that causes a permanent injury, disability, or death, that sucks, but that's the risk. About the same risk involved teaching a kid how to ride a bike, strangely enough. Even with the helmet.

Absolutely, they heal. But these are accidents, and not purposely throwing someone off their bikes.

$1:

I like the bubble-wrap comment above. Are we going to make our kids learn how to ride bikes wearing 50 pounds of protective gear to prevent every possible injury from happening?

Maybe we should outlaw bike riding? Some kid might fall over and scrape his fucking elbow.

And that is exactly my point. There's a difference between falling and purposely running someone over. Purposely running someone over is banned, you lose your license, get fined or whatever. But it is ok to hit someone into the boarding.

[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I grew up playing rugby & contact football at school, and hockey &horseback riding at home while growing up.

The only serious injuries I ever received doing any of those (ie beyond the occasional sprain or a small break) was while horseback riding. I couldn't count with all my fingers and toes how many bones I've broken doing that because every one of my fingers and toes have snapped at one point doing that, busted ribs, dislocations, etc.

Strangely enough, none of the contact sports ever kept me out of school or doing my job. Just the very act of owning horses and going trail-riding has.

Contact sports aren't the problem. Improper methods playing them is. All the more reason why we should be starting out from a very young age in order to properly teach our kids to give and take a hit.

But even then, you will never have no risk. So this is the trade off, do we minimize risk for the sake of preventing injury, but also preventing our kids from ever aspiring to anything, or should we accept that our kids need to take risks and be risked in order to get anywhere in life?

I'm lucky to have grown up in the tail end of the era where falling off a bike didn't require a doctors visit, playground equipment was made from wood, rusty metal, & old tyres, and I learned how to deal with strangers by walking to school by myself. Today's golden age of over-protected children, while producing intelligent people, is producing a generation of people who just don't know how to let go of the safety of their parent's care. They have no concept and no experience of handling risk, pain, and just generally doing things on their own, and it's going to fuck them over in the long term.

Well said, but I doubt if certain people on this thread will understand.

It's pretty clear none of you understood what I am saying

[Canadian_Mind]

Brenda Brenda:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Brenda Brenda:

Ya need to wear a helmet to ride a bike. That's not overprotective? I am just saying.

And the helmet, chest-protector, and various other pads of hockey players aren't either. Hence why the vast majority of the time people don't get hurt when they get checked.

I am certainly not saying that hockey gear is overprotective.

$1:

But just like teaching kids how to give and take a hit, kids are going to get hurt learning how to ride a bike. It's inevitable unless the kid is forever using training wheels.

Ehmm, I disagree.
They fall on their knees and hands, but rarely on their heads...

$1:

That's why you wear a helmet riding a bike, and one of the reasons why you wear all that gear while playing hockey. Cause in the process of learning, kids will get hurt. But guess what, they'll heal, it's what kids do. That 1 in 240 accident that causes a permanent injury, disability, or death, that sucks, but that's the risk. About the same risk involved teaching a kid how to ride a bike, strangely enough. Even with the helmet.

Absolutely, they heal. But these are accidents, and not purposely throwing someone off their bikes.

$1:

I like the bubble-wrap comment above. Are we going to make our kids learn how to ride bikes wearing 50 pounds of protective gear to prevent every possible injury from happening?

Maybe we should outlaw bike riding? Some kid might fall over and scrape his fucking elbow.

And that is exactly my point. There's a difference between falling and purposely running someone over. Purposely running someone over is banned, you lose your license, get fined or whatever. But it is ok to hit someone into the boarding.

Then why make them wear helmets? I still think it should be a personal choice, albeit I'd choose to wear one.

There is a difference between running someone over with a bicycle (what fucking licence?) and hitting a guy into the boards. Hitting a guy into the boards or laying him out on the ice serves in-game purposes besides filling a players urge to commit violence. Running someone over with a bike, or even a car, usually doesn't. Hence why one is illegal, and the other isn't... well I guess they are both illegal now.