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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:29 am
 


Sure, and why not it's free right but you get what you pay for. What is android today may end up being chrome tomorrow. A lot of devs will end up not getting paid for their work and won't waste time on making product on a dead end market.

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9. Open source derived market not very strong in buyers

My friends, there is no easy way to say this, so let me just put it out there. At this time, the Android market is not a great place for developers. Android, having its roots in open source (it is free to the manufacturers, after all), seems to have carried that to the users. There are many free Android apps of varying quality, but in my research the market is not friendly unless you are a big name with a lot of recognition. A small time developer with a lot of innovation may never get enough recognition (translate: money) for their first product version to warrant another.

The iOS app market, on the other hand, is well known to be friendly to both large and small developers. After all, where else can small fortunes be made from fart apps?

10. Uneven distribution of Android versions

When you buy a new Android smart device, you are not sure which version of OS the product is running without some research. And without even more research, along with a gut feeling, you are not sure if it will be able to run the next version. So, are you sure you want to buy that device and invest in some apps that may be dead in the water with your next phone upgrade? No wonder the paid Android app market is a bit on the weak side.

Tablets are even a bigger concern, with devices being released today that probably should have never seen the light of day with that OS version. When it comes to a given Android OS version, there is no sure way of knowing where you are at in the OS lifetime pyramid due to the many possibilities of market influences, hardware changes, and OS provider tweaks.

This is where iOS shines. By having both operating system and hardware from the same source, you know it is going to work together. Sure, a few years out you may not be able to run the latest and greatest, but that should be expected – it is not happening several times a year.


Apple isn't the only solution but what they have done is laid down the groundwork. IOS will not be static and it will be updated on a routine basis. I can't say that will be the same for the android path. There where no smartphones before IOS even though what they created was not new but the manufactures of phones at the time were under direct control of the wireless phone carriers who did not want any threats to their monopoly. Apple broke them of that and that paved the way for Android to exist but Apples business plan with the IOS is focused on the long game. Simply put, they don't want to be the next BB or Nokia and by trying to be the next flavor of the week and relinquishing the IOS and devices to mirror Android development would be short sighted. Yes, it does take a while for the IOS to innovate what the jailbreak community has already done on the same phone but when an IOS does come out with the feature it is well polished and it doesn't crash either. That polish isn't cheap.





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Sure, and why not it's free right but you get what you pay for. What is android today may end up being chrome tomorrow. A lot of devs will end up not getting paid for their work and won't waste time on making product on a dead end market.


I still don't understand this.

Android's 38% market share keeps it on top
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A commanding 38% of all smartphone users in the U.S. used Android-based devices in the three months ending in May, ComScore reported on Tuesday.

ComScore's survey of 30,000 users found that Android's market share grew by 15% compared to its February survey results. That survey found that 33% of all smartphone subscribers used Android.

The popularity of Apple's iPhone also grew in the latest survey, as its U.S. market share increased from 25.2% share in February to 26.6% share in May, a 5% hike, ComScore said.

The shares of all the other major platforms declined over the period.

For instance, Research in Motion's share of the smartphone market dropped to 24.7% share from 28.9% in the earlier report. The decline let Apple take over second place in the survey.


The dead end market you are talking about is these Blackberrys that we're supposed to be talking about. Which is why they are running Android apps on them now. If you're a developer looking for a market, you're silly if you don't choose the one that runs on Android and Blackberry first.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:01 pm
 


Look deeper. That 38% is cross platform. The IOS is one platform on 14 devices. How many devices make up that 38%? Thousands? And none of the ones going up in market share are devices that have been around longer then a few months whereas the 3gs that has been out for years now is still selling millions. For IOS it's a one stop shop for 26% of the market.





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Look deeper. That 38% is cross platform. The IOS is one platform on 14 devices. How many devices make up that 38%? Thousands? And none of the ones going up in market share are devices that have been around longer then a few months whereas the 3gs that has been out for years now is still selling millions. For IOS it's a one stop shop for 26% of the market.


Do you think a developer has to write a different app for each phone? That isn't the case at all. An Android developer writes an app for a specific Android API. Newer API versions have new features. Exactly the same as iOS. You can write an app for iOS v5 and it wont work on iOS v4. The distinction that you are making is imaginary.


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That's not true at all. The carriers do indeed lock their versions to what the manufactures specs will be. That will mean that a device will not be able to use android until that carrier does the push out of the software. If AT&T doesn't want an update but Verizon does for theirs your not going to have the same software period.

Example:

Verizon Rolls Out Samsung Fascinate Software Update, Still Not Android 2.2

P.S the difference in IOS is hardware based as the phones are obsolescent and no longer are capable of performing the tasks required for the new OS standard.





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This is not a problem for developers. Android 2.2 was a bugfixes and wallpapers release. It doesn't prevent anyone from running apps on the Verizon phone. If it did, they could install something like cyanogenmod if they really had to have the update before their vendor pushed it to them. The same apps run on it before and after the update.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:38 pm
 


It is if it becomes a propriety issue with the carrier (ie tethering) if they don't want to do an over the air software push you don't get the update. Whereas with iOS 3 devices are not locked out from devs as long as the phones hardware can support the app.


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Example:

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I use an I-Phone 3gs for personal use and a BlackBerry Bold 9780 for work and I find myself using the BlackBerry more, yeah the I-Phone is great but the BlackBerry just feels better..

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I've had a BB Bold 9780 OS6 for the past 6 months and got an iPhone 4(white with white otterbox ) 32Gig for fathers day..... The BB can't even be compared, it's not in the same league as the iPhone 4... Touch screen all the way... Angry Birds....I luv you!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:05 pm
 


When people talk about the Iphone verses the Blackberry it always seems like the only merits they can come up with are the fucking games.

Seriously, go buy a gameboy if that's what you want your phone to be. :roll:


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PSP even. Yeah but that is a pretty lame argument for Iphone. I don't get games on phones or even PSPs !

The only time I do play the one game I do have on my phone is when I'm on the crapper !


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Nice source. iGadget is very un-biased. Here I can do this too.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-13489_53-20 ... 89930.html

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9. Open source derived market not very strong in buyers

My friends, there is no easy way to say this, so let me just put it out there. At this time, the Android market is not a great place for developers. Android, having its roots in open source (it is free to the manufacturers, after all), seems to have carried that to the users. There are many free Android apps of varying quality, but in my research the market is not friendly unless you are a big name with a lot of recognition. A small time developer with a lot of innovation may never get enough recognition (translate: money) for their first product version to warrant another.
That can be said about any business in any free economy. If you're unknown you're not going to do very well at the beginning, doesn't mean that won't change.

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10. Uneven distribution of Android versions

When you buy a new Android smart device, you are not sure which version of OS the product is running without some research. And without even more research, along with a gut feeling, you are not sure if it will be able to run the next version. So, are you sure you want to buy that device and invest in some apps that may be dead in the water with your next phone upgrade? No wonder the paid Android app market is a bit on the weak side.
This is also a load of shit. Any one with any remote tech savvyness can get their own version of later Android versions to put on their phone. Because Google aren't giant fucking clowns they make it really easy to do what you want with your phone, and don't try to sue you for it. Apple is different that way. Hell a lot of people will wipe their phones of the HTC/samsung/motorolla extra shit and go with a pure OS anyways.


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There where no smartphones before IOS even though what they created was not new but the manufactures of phones at the time were under direct control of the wireless phone carriers who did not want any threats to their monopoly.
What are you high? Of course there were smartphones before iOS.

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Apple broke them of that and that paved the way for Android to exist but Apples business plan with the IOS is focused on the long game.
Creating something new and paving the way for others to do something similar doesn't mean yours is better. It just means you were first....when you weren't.
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Simply put, they don't want to be the next BB or Nokia and by trying to be the next flavor of the week and relinquishing the IOS and devices to mirror Android development would be short sighted.
Are you implying that Android is the flavor of the week? Cause it's outsold iOS for the last year. And is growing faster. And with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich along with many new handsets, it's going to make the iPhone look like an awful choice to anyone with half a brain.

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Yes, it does take a while for the IOS to innovate what the jailbreak community has already done on the same phone but when an IOS does come out with the feature it is well polished and it doesn't crash either. That polish isn't cheap.

Bullshit. I've been doing stuff on my phone from jailbroken apps since I got it that apple still doesn't have, and probably won't. If they actually wanted people to innovate, they wouldn't deny people from making certain apps. Apple is NOT about innovation, it's about pulling the wool over people's eyes.


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That's not true at all. The carriers do indeed lock their versions to what the manufactures specs will be. That will mean that a device will not be able to use android until that carrier does the push out of the software. If AT&T doesn't want an update but Verizon does for theirs your not going to have the same software period.
Wrong. Read above.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:18 pm
 


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So you just get one that's not on the android market. Problem solved.


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