CKA Forums
Login 
canadian forums
bottom
 
 
Canadian Forums

Author Topic Options
Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
 Montreal Canadiens


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 7835
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:07 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
Yes I did answer that. It was the same context that the Bloc used in their bill.


No it wasn't, and no you didn't. Since you keep using the Bloc quote, you probably think "nation", in Harper's context, means an independent state. You're wrong, but you can keep arguing falsehoods all you like.

$1:
When Harper did this stupid "Nation" thing with Quebec, it was 2006. He was newly elected. He did that in response to a bill that the Bloc had introduced where they declared Quebec a nation. For years after that, Gilles used that to push his agenda of Nationhood.


Uh huh. Harper did something pretty basic, which was recognizing the Quebecois as a unique nation among a united Canada, no different from the First Nations or the Metis. The Bloc, in their bill, declared the Considering that Quebec hasn't broken off from Canada during Harper's reign, the Bloc's version of a Quebec nation failed, while the unique culture, history, language, etc of the French Canadian people (the Quebecois) were recognized as being a distinct part of Canada.

Is that so hard? I mean, this is basic Political Science material here.


Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:06 pm
 


$1:
And at that time there were no guarantees of individual rights through the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, (Chretien) added.


The Charter was made a pointless exercise when the Liberals added the 'notwithstanding clause'.

In short, saying that everyone has rights until or unless the government finds them inconvenient means you don't have rights at all.

You merely have revocable privileges.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Toronto Maple Leafs


GROUP_AVATAR

GROUP_AVATAR
Profile
Posts: 20460
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:11 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
$1:
And at that time there were no guarantees of individual rights through the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, (Chretien) added.


The Charter was made a pointless exercise when the Liberals added the 'notwithstanding clause'.

In short, saying that everyone has rights until or unless the government finds them inconvenient means you don't have rights at all.

You merely have revocable privileges.


That is not quite what the clause is about. At the same time how many of your rights/privileges are revocable?

One thing this election has show us is that we can very easily vote in governments with little power to oppress us when they cannot get enough support to make that happen. This belief is the primary factor Harper will not see a majority government under his leadership.





PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:39 am
 


commanderkai commanderkai:
Harper did something pretty basic, which was recognizing the Quebecois as a unique nation among a united Canada, no different from the First Nations or the Metis.


That's your opinion. I recognize the unique nation of Canada, and celebrate its diversity.


Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 49 posts ]  Previous  1  2  3  4



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests




 
     
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © Canadaka.net. Powered by © phpBB.