[wildrosegirl]

bootlegga bootlegga:

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

Actually, the vast majority of Alberta drivers aren't Albertan's - they're Newfies or Ontarians.

I'd doubt that. If that were strictly true, the Conservatives wouldn't take almost every seat in the province come election time.

Yes, there are many transplanted Newfies (Ft. Mac especially) and people from Ontario, but the vast majority of Albertans are from here. I think your experience might be relevant out in the sticks where you are, but the majority of Edmontonians are from Edmonton (Calgary probably has higher number of Ontario residents because of all the head offices), but I would doubt that the vast majority there aren't Albertans either.

And given that 2/3 of Albertans live in either Edmonton or Calgary, I rest my case...

Soooooo.... do you have some sort of article or figures or something to support that?

I don't have actual numbers either, but I have 2 jobs, and at neither of them are Albertans the majority. I'm sure you'd be shocked to find out how many Edmontonians are actually transplants and you just don't realize it. I will say though, it is very likely that down south and up north do attract more transplants than central Alberta, just because of the industries.

Now you have me curious...

[Khar]

Since 1980, the population of Alberta has risen by about a million, which is about a third of the current population. Most of Canada actually has a negative population growth rate, growth in our population comes from immigration. Also keep in mind that over those thirty years, a great deal of people are retiring and moving out of province to places like BC, or moving to other places for work/family/etc.

I would not say that the vast majority of Albertans are from Alberta originally. I'd ballpark "Albertans" as defined by people who were born/lived there for thirty years at least closer to half than just that third increase which Alberta has experienced. While I'm currently an "Albertan," I moved to one of those many new expansions to Calgary in 2003, and currently live in Edmonton.

I think it really depends on what you would call "Albertans," and how long you'd think is needed for someone to have a change in driving skills in the context of this thread, but if you have a group coming with bad driving skills which cannot be offset by other drivers (as in they find it easier to drive the way they do) it can be hard to promote change. I'd bet this is especially true if other drivers on the road begin appearing who were from other provinces.

It's all very subjective though, and I'm going out on a limb a bit at the end there. For the record, I do have family out here, and both work with very few actual Albertans, which could suggest many born Albertans are retiring or farmers. At the same time, the fields they work in (research, for example) tend to have a much more heterogeneous labour force anyways, regardless of location. I know that Edmonton does have a greater amount of original Albertans here, but Edmonton doesn't have the incentives to growth that Calgary and Fort McMurray have so likely isn't drawing the same extent of out-of-province/country experience those other cities are.

[Alta_redneck]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

I will say though, it is very likely that down south and up north do attract more transplants than central Alberta, just because of the industries.

Now you have me curious...

Damn, a Red deer paper just had an online survey about this but it's already past the best before date and there's not must of an archives so I don't have numbers either, but I was surprised when I looked, only 52% were born and raised Albertans. It was a couple of days old when I saw it so I don't think it changed much after that.

[ASLplease]

I've been in Alberta since 1990, thats 20 years. I'd say I'm albertan.