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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:56 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
It doesn't get into it in the video, but apparently he goes on to show that water vapour is responsible for equalizing the system. If this is the case we should be seeing a change int he water vapour regime to counteract the increase in CO2 measured. I wonder if anyone is working on that.


Not specifically that, but you might want to look at the recent studies by Lindzen on Earth Radiation Budget, and Spencer's cloud studies.

You can get an introduction to both viewpoints by starting...

Here

then searching at that site for how Spencer thinks clouds can regulate climate.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:10 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
sandorski sandorski:
Fail. GW/CC is just as "Proven" as Gravity.


No, it isn't.

1G always causes objects to fall at an accelerating rate of 32' per second per second.

Global Warming has been consistently not warming since 1998.

Big difference.


Can you explain what Gravity is?


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$1:
A former top climate scientist who had become of one the scientific world's most cited authorities on the human effect on Earth's atmosphere was sentenced to probation Tuesday after pleading guilty to steering lucrative no-bid contracts to his wife's company.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... 68862.html


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:21 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:

$1:
A former top climate scientist who had become of one the scientific world's most cited authorities on the human effect on Earth's atmosphere was sentenced to probation Tuesday after pleading guilty to steering lucrative no-bid contracts to his wife's company.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local ... 68862.html


Meh--typical Fox. Three speakers. All saying exactly the same thing. Not for thinking people--for people who want to be told what to think. For people who aren't comfortable being confronted with opposing viewpoints.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:37 am
 


sandorski sandorski:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
sandorski sandorski:
Fail. GW/CC is just as "Proven" as Gravity.


No, it isn't.

1G always causes objects to fall at an accelerating rate of 32' per second per second.

Global Warming has been consistently not warming since 1998.

Big difference.


Can you explain what Gravity is?


Sure, pick up a book, hold it out, then let it go. That's gravity :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:37 am
 


sandorski sandorski:
Can you explain what Gravity is?


No one can.

However, the effects of gravity can be observed, quantified, and variations in gravity as an expression of mass are consistent.

Planck formulated the basis for the current consensus on gravitational theories but I side with the up and coming physicists who prefer to expand on Fock-Lorentz symmetry and, in the fringe of this group are some folks like Dr. Patrick Flanagan (UC Berkeley, Lawrence-Livermore) who've postulated that gravity is a trans-neutrino particle that exists at +C velocities.
A small school of astrophysicists are using this postulation to explain why the gravitational effects of collapsars can be observed to have an instantaneous effect on bodies well removed from the collapsar event.

So at the current time I'm of the school of thought that gravity is an expression of a particle that is currently beyond our ability to isolate but whose effects are readily observed and quantified. Given the past history of science in tending to observe the effects of particles well before they are isolated (axions, neutrinos, gluons, etc.) I imagine a gravity-inducing particle will probably be isolated in our lifetime.


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