[ASLplease]

running the longest most successful, hardest working minority government in the history of Canada - check!

[gigs]

bootlegga bootlegga:

He isn't!

He's flopped on just about everything he supposedly stood for;

Floor crossers - Check!
Senate appointment - Check!
Coalition government - Check!

The list goes on and on...

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/canadian-politics-f17/thread-for-compilation-of-conservative-scandals-and-misdeeds-t63234.html?hilit=conservative%20scandals

Fuck he's flipped flopped so much I'm beginning to think he really is a shark and doesn't have a single bone in his body.

I see you didn't bother to answer my question.

A majority government would have made all the difference. It is safe to assume politicians campaign during an election for a majority in order to keep their promises.
Now that the senate is almost neutral the Libs might finally consider senate reform.
No sense keeping it the way it is if it doesn't give an advantage.

[ASLplease]

a majority government could have fixed all the Liberal boondoggles while the Liberals rebuilt themselves.

[ridenrain]

It's clear Boots drank way too much of that red kool-aid and fell off the fence.

[OnTheIce]

bootlegga bootlegga:

He isn't!

He's flopped on just about everything he supposedly stood for;

Floor crossers - Check!
Senate appointment - Check!
Coalition government - Check!

The list goes on and on...

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/canadian-politics-f17/thread-for-compilation-of-conservative-scandals-and-misdeeds-t63234.html?hilit=conservative%20scandals

Fuck he's flipped flopped so much I'm beginning to think he really is a shark and doesn't have a single bone in his body.

While I don't at all disagree with the floor crossers, I have a problem with the other two.

Harper cannot leave the Senate empty, hence the appointments. So we all need a partisan reality check.

Secondly, Harper isn't running nor supporting a coalition government. He has a minority government in which other parties have decided to support.

A coalition government is one that signs a formal agreement and gets the approval from the GG to form the official government of Canada once a confidence motion has been defeated. That's not at all the case, as I'm sure you are aware.

[Bodah]

Akhenaten Akhenaten:

Kenmore Kenmore:

Yes I know who M. Van Rompuy is...

Phffft. No you didn't.

kenmore kenmore:

and I am not concerned about who did or did not address the UN.. I am concerned about this country and its PM..

Right. You're not concerned in the least if this is actually an issue or not, whether it's unusual or not, you're just willing to sink your teeth into any non-issue out there and make a mountain out of a molehill in order to facilitate a partisan attack on Harper.

Thank you for admitting it.

Dont bother banging your head against the wall Akh, when you ask Ken to use critical thought this happens....

[herbie]

ASLplease ASLplease:

running the longest most successful, hardest working minority government in the history of Canada - check!

Wow your definition of successful isn't exactly overachieving is it?
Success: He was an apprentice plumber. Now he's a journeyman plumber. He was THERE for four years!

[kenmore]

Harper chooses donuts over planetShare
Yesterday at 4:27pm
Here's what happened:

Monday - Thousands of people at thousands of events in Canada and around the world join a coordinated global climate wake up call. Prime Minister Harper's switchboards are overloaded.

Tuesday - World leaders gather for UN Climate Summit in New York. Chinese leader Hu Jintao makes historic speech committing China to take action on climate change by reforesting an area the size of California, increasing production of renewable energy, and decreasing its carbon emissions. President Obama follows him with a strong speech on climate change, saying that "the people of the world want change, they will not long tolerate those who are on the wrong side of history.”

Prime Minister Harper is no where to been seen amongst the world leaders at this historic summit on the most important issue of our generation.

Wednesday - Prime Minister Harper skips another day at the UN in order to make a campaign-style speech at a donut shop.

Lesson to Canadians and the world: Prime Minister Harper chooses donuts over planet.

We have between 24 and 48 hours to get Canadians to join this facebook page demanding an apology for Prime Minister Harper's choice to snub world efforts to solve climate change.

If we do not get an apology we will at least get on the record in international and national media that Canadians want our Prime Minister to take strong action in Canada and be a global leader in international negotiations on climate change.

[kenmore]

Hows this for critical thought.. you guys are so narrow minded that you think the only thoughts one should have is the tory thoughts.. no thanks.. I am well aware of the issues and did not say ( your typical tory response of putting words in someones mouth) I wasn't concerned for the planet, I am! ... I said and I repeat... harper is an asshole and an embarrassment to Canadians.. he does not represent the Country on the world stage at all. He is an egoist and autocrat who spends more time with his hair dresser and in washrooms (and now apparently donut shops) than taking care of business. Some of you torys are so narrow minded that you cant handle someone with a different view..You spout off about having someone removed from the forums rather than accept their views as theirs. If you only want a one way dialogue.. look in the mirror or attend your local tory riding association brain washing sessions.

[gigs]

It was a good decision for Harper not to go. What did he miss?
95 minutes of Kadafi and clowns:lol:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbea ... oments.cnn

[gigs]

kenmore kenmore:

Hows this for critical thought.. you guys are so narrow minded that you think the only thoughts one should have is the tory thoughts.. no thanks.. I am well aware of the issues and did not say ( your typical tory response of putting words in someones mouth) I wasn't concerned for the planet, I am! ... I said and I repeat... harper is an asshole and an embarrassment to Canadians.. he does not represent the Country on the world stage at all. He is an egoist and autocrat who spends more time with his hair dresser and in washrooms (and now apparently donut shops) than taking care of business. Some of you torys are so narrow minded that you cant handle someone with a different view..You spout off about having someone removed from the forums rather than accept their views as theirs. If you only want a one way dialogue.. look in the mirror or attend your local tory riding association brain washing sessions.

Really?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/09/ ... -poll.html

The EKOS poll, done exclusively for the CBC and released Thursday, shows the Tories with 37 per cent support, followed by the Liberals with 29.9 per cent. The New Democratic Party followed with 13.8 per cent, the Green Party with 10.2 per cent and the Bloc Québécois with 9.1 per cent.

[Bacardi4206]

kenmore kenmore:

Hello! the topic was global warming and the crises situation if something isn't done. They had hoped to hear some form of plan from Canada. And he offers nothing? common!

The UN always debated global warming and planet crises. There is always leaders promising to do this and that but they never do it. That is nothing more than a room full of people who make promises but don't keep it... you know, politicians.

The UN has become a huge joke, they are trying to do everything in there power to condem Israel and it only proves there Israel hate by allowing Iran's leader to publicly deny the holocaust without proof other-wise in another effort to deny Israel's right to exist. If it was any other subject, like a video I watched about some politician ranting about how biased the United Nations was. People were oh so quick to stand up and tell him to shut up. They wouldn't let him speak but as soon as they heard Iran's leader just go on at another anti-Israel rant. They just allowed it.

How long has the UN been debating global warming crisis? Everytime some politician makes a form of a promise and that's it. Although China's pledge quite suprises me because that's a big glass to fill in what they promised. Obama just made another 'yes we can' type of speech but from what I can tell diddn't promise anything regarding U.S.'s commitment.

I'd rather Harper there just for whatever reason however personally I don't care if he passed on addressing the UN. Even about this subject, for the simple fact that the UN can't make anybody do shit. They just offer the grounds and language translators to have a international discussion. It's individual countries leaders who have to debate and make these commitments and keep to them. The day I see a country making a full commitment and keeping it regarding a green planet is the day when Canada looks like a idiot for not discussing it. Which I hope is soon even if it meant Canada (thanks to harper) looking like a idiot but I doubt that's going to happen because its ALWAYS just all talk.

[bootlegga]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

While I don't at all disagree with the floor crossers, I have a problem with the other two.

Harper cannot leave the Senate empty, hence the appointments. So we all need a partisan reality check.

Secondly, Harper isn't running nor supporting a coalition government. He has a minority government in which other parties have decided to support.

A coalition government is one that signs a formal agreement and gets the approval from the GG to form the official government of Canada once a confidence motion has been defeated. That's not at all the case, as I'm sure you are aware.

And that's the harshest criticism I've ever heard from any of you blue kool-aid drinkers...

"I don't agree with it..." yet when the Liberals do the exact same thing, they are evil incarnate.

I agree, that this government technically isn't a coalition government, but how silly is it that he is cutting deals the the very same people he derided all summer long.

Harper did try and create a coalition. He wrote a letter to GG Clarkson back in the spring of 2005 asking to form a coalition with those dirty socialists if Martin's Liberals lost the budget vote. The only difference between Harper and last fall's coalition is that they took it a step farther.

But the intent was the same.

[PimpBrewski123]

Good for Harper to take a position on this.

[OnTheIce]

bootlegga bootlegga:

And that's the harshest criticism I've ever heard from any of you blue kool-aid drinkers...

"I don't agree with it..." yet when the Liberals do the exact same thing, they are evil incarnate.

I agree, that this government technically isn't a coalition government, but how silly is it that he is cutting deals the the very same people he derided all summer long.

Harper did try and create a coalition. He wrote a letter to GG Clarkson back in the spring of 2005 asking to form a coalition with those dirty socialists if Martin's Liberals lost the budget vote. The only difference between Harper and last fall's coalition is that they took it a step farther.

But the intent was the same.

If that's the harshest you've read, you don't read much of what many of us conservatives write and focus on the negative.

I don't call it "silly" when parties support each other, as they should in a minority situation. When Harper does work with the parties, he's starting a "coalition".

When the other parties don't support him, he's the "evil dictator" that will work with nobody.

Regardless of what Harper did, it wouldn't please anyone on the left. Nobody.