[kenmore]

Thanks DerbyX

[ridenrain]

kenmore kenmore:

The problem with the new rules is any cost to the banks or credit card company will be passed on to the consumer. And is the case most times, the lower income earner will take a kicking because they can't pay the balance every month. The new rules don't do nothing really.

lol. right from the talking points.
Still, it's far better than your usual.. "heh.. Harper sucks kaus he's mean and dumb.."

[mtbr]

ridenrain ridenrain:

kenmore kenmore:

The problem with the new rules is any cost to the banks or credit card company will be passed on to the consumer. And is the case most times, the lower income earner will take a kicking because they can't pay the balance every month. The new rules don't do nothing really.

lol. right from the talking points.
Still, it's far better than your usual.. "heh.. Harper sucks kaus he's mean and dumb.."

Was he plagiarizing again?

[CanadianJeff]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I'm glad we took Layton's advice instead of waiting for Iggy to come up with something. Our credit card plans might go the way of the Liberal national childcare policy if we let them push the agenda.

I'm glad we let Harper rule over the worst deficits in almost 20 years. He deserves the blame there.

....it's a recession you fool. Any government would have gone into one of the biggest debts in years to kick-start the economy.

That and just wait until you see your tax bills if the cap and trade goes through. I honestly did like Iggy for a while but Cap and Trade is the worst idea in Canadian history.

[commanderkai]

I got my first credit card before my 19th birthday, and I haven't paid an interest payment at all. Why? Because I know how much money I have, and just pay on time.

Seriously, credit cards aren't invisible money, and if people can't understand that, don't get a credit card.

[CanadianJeff]

DerbyX DerbyX:

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

DerbyX DerbyX:

I tend to not form an opinion on provincial politics other then my own for just this reason. Federal Liberals aren't provincial liberals and each province is different.

I do however find it incredibly hipocritical for the same alberta cons decrying the Libs as the federal "natural governing party" while holding that the Cons are the natural governing party of Alberta.

Well I don't think I would use the words natural ruling party, I think the only viable party might be a bit closer to the mark.

Bootlegga might differ. To be honest its only been a few people (RR, mtbr, ryan, WMG) who crossed provincial boundaries and cheered for a party based entirely on their name. We Ontarians get loads of westerners like them cheering for the PCs based only on the fact they are "conservative".

Myself, the only time I commented on provincial politics is in QC because they are the ones who hold the referendum card.

Not only is that uncalled for but it's downright stupid. Maybe the reason some of us have not voted liberal in over a decade is because between Martin, Dion, and Ignatiff here has not been one central party platform idea that has not made me shake my head a bit.

If Ignatiff honestly have up on the cap and trade and started calling bullshit on it then I would seriously vote for him. Your trying to label as CPC voters as simply being loyal to the party rather then to good ideas. It's simply not true.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

To be honest its only been a few people (RR, mtbr, ryan, WMG) who crossed provincial boundaries and cheered for a party based entirely on their name.

I must have missed this because this was pretty mild compared with all the other stupid things you were saying last night.

I've mentioned it in a few places that I voted for the BC Liberal party. There is a Conservative party but their spotty and unorganized so I wrote them off.

You really keep digging deeper and deeper, don't you.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

DerbyX DerbyX:

To be honest its only been a few people (RR, mtbr, ryan, WMG) who crossed provincial boundaries and cheered for a party based entirely on their name.

I must have missed this because this was pretty mild compared with all the other stupid things you were saying last night.

I've mentioned it in a few places that I voted for the BC Liberal party. There is a Conservative party but their spotty and unorganized so I wrote them off.

You really keep digging deeper and deeper, don't you.

Too bad its the truth that you have commented on the Ontario Liberals negatively and the PCs positively based entirely on the name alone.

You truly spend an inordinate amount of time spewing crap and propaganda don't you.

[DerbyX]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Not only is that uncalled for but it's downright stupid. Maybe the reason some of us have not voted liberal in over a decade is because between Martin, Dion, and Ignatiff here has not been one central party platform idea that has not made me shake my head a bit.

If Ignatiff honestly have up on the cap and trade and started calling bullshit on it then I would seriously vote for him. Your trying to label as CPC voters as simply being loyal to the party rather then to good ideas. It's simply not true.

Its downright factual and your spiel about Iggy just proves my point. Notice what I said about the federal and provincial parties being seperate and this debate is about the provincial ones but you bring up the federal ones?

I certainly also didn't see you commenting or objecting at any of the numerous threads or posts about how us Libs vote anything in red that spring up every month or so.

[CanadianJeff]

Maybe because I think the argument that you guys only vote red is a stupid waste of time and very untrue. But if your going to stand there and accuse the CPC of doing what you do not beleive to be true then I am going to speak up against the stupidity of it all.

If your going to rightfully deny that you don't all vote liberal simply to vote red then you have zero right to accuse the other side of the same. My point is that no one votes only for one party or another unless your a total zealot. I think we all know that the vast majority of the voter base changes it's mind be it federal or provincial that's my point.

No voter on any level of vote simply votes for the point of voting. The vast majority of us are capable of changing our minds. I want you to understand that point.

[DerbyX]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Maybe because I think the argument that you guys only vote red is a stupid waste of time and very untrue. But if your going to stand there and accuse the CPC of doing what you do not beleive to be true then I am going to speak up against the stupidity of it all.

First off, its because I read them doing it. They posted often especially during the election we had here. IN FACT, I specifically mentioned it was only a few posters who did it and not the entire conservative group. If you find it so stupid when I mention 4 posters do it then why were you not outraged when those very same posters were starting the threads about how all Libs simply vote Liberal regardless of the issues?

Moreover it is a fact that people do cheer on like minded parties in other provinces or even countries. Notice that most conservatives here support the republicans and most liberals the democrats?

Again, if you felt it was too stupid to comment when they were doing it then why kick up a fuss when I do it?

[romanP]

I thought this was a thread about credit cards....

[CanadianJeff]

Derby you totally missed the point here. I'm pointing you out becuase you are fully aware it's stupid behavior and yet actively engage in the very same smear against your opponents.

It's one thing to dislike a stupid attack against your ideals because someone accuses you of being a blind sheep but it's another to try and pass off the same attack as acceptable just because your enemy did it. We all know that people that spew such attacks are untrustworthy at best but by engaging in the same behavior you abhor you place yourself on the same level.

Frankly reading your posts I know your a little more prone to reason and most of us are sick of the bickering that goes on by the more partisan people here. Point in case if you choose to engage in it I'm going to start calling you all on it when I see it.

Most of us I think are intelligent people here to have some fun and debate this kind of thing within reason. We have enough stupid party commercials on TV pulling off the "blind sheep" crap without people accusing each other of that here.

Basically I'm saying you don't need to point out when people are being stupid. Were all smart enough to realize it and if you engage in the same behavior...well...I needn't go on.

[uwish]

Well, I do like the new rules and I as well, would have liked to see some form of 'cap' on the upper end of the interest rate. That being said however, as the consumer my credit card debt is MY debt and when I use it, I am fully aware that IF I do not pay off the balance each month, I will incur interest. It isn't just the 'evil' banks fault when Jo public is spending like a drunken sailor.

I know there are two sides to this my point is merely WE have to be aware and accountable for our own spending habits.

I have little sympathy for shop-a-holics who just can't help but buy another pair of shoes (or whatever) and then cry fowl when they get the bill.