[DerbyX]

Robair Robair:

Good for Jack Layton for getting this whole ball rolling. The little bugger punches above his weight sometimes!

Its the porn mustache.

[ridenrain]

Oh yeah. This is a shoe in for CPC majority.
What dosen't get given to Quebec will be given to Ontario and the west picks up the bill again.

[Thanos]

Lessee here:

A leaderless leftist party that claims to be centrist (Liberals) teams up with a hardcore leftist party (NDP) and a xenophobic socialist party comprised of anti-Anglo hatemongerers whose stated aim is to destroy the country (Bloc) all in order to secure public funding that they never should have gotten in the first place? Cute.

Hopefully the GG office has rules in place that will prevent this alliance of pure hypocrisy and pure malice from taking control of the country. This can't be decided on numbers only. A so-called coalition government for the entire country existentially cannot be allowed to form if one of it's members is a separatist party dedicated to the destruction of Canada. The GG has to stop this dead in it's tracks right now and the courts have to get involved immediately to stop this most disgusting end-run around the legal results of a legitimate election.

Here's a good one for Dec 1 2008 in the "Today Is....." thread: today is the day that the Liberals, the NDP, and the Bloc deliberately destroyed Canadian democracy over a few million dollars. This isn't Canada anymore, this is Chavez' Venezuala happening right in front of us. Shame. Nothing but eternal shame on every single black-hearted one of them. This isn't politics anymore, this is now open war.

Enjoy what comes out of Pandora's box, assholes, as it turns right back on you and ends up eating your own guts out. There's no stepping back from the edge of this abyss.

[Robair]

The Bloc wouldn't be part of the coalition Thanos, they are just pledging to support the coalition. Kind of like they pledged support of Harper's first minority government. Same thing.

[Thanos]

The Bloc is effectively in a kingmaker postion. Their support decides whether or not this entire hideous enterprise goes forward or collapses completely. It's not just that the Bloc could now call all the shots on Commons floor votes, it's that they can now decide which Liberal or NDP sock puppet they want to occupy positions as Ministers. There is no logical way that the Bloc can be considered a non-participant in any of this. The new leader won't be Ignatieff or Rae, or even that idiot Layton. The new leader of all of Canada will effictively be Gilles Duceppe and whatever other separatist slime that Lucien Bouchard dragged with him to Ottawa all those years ago.

This is nothing more than the separatist poison that infects Quebec seeping out and sickening the entire federal political and governmental process. This is the equivalent of a KKK party in the United States holding the balance of power in Congress, or of the Basque terrorists in ETA pulling the strings over the Spanish government. And the Liberals and NDP are deliberately helping it to happen. Hypocritical fucking bastards! All of them!

[Robair]

Dude. Your meds. Quickly!

[scarecrowe]

Thanos Thanos:

The new leader of all of Canada will effictively be Gilles Duceppe

... and Gilles said during the last leaders' debate that he knew that he would not be Prime Minister and the others hadn't a clue. He knew all along he held all the power in Canada and was just clowning around.

[Thanos]

Robair: prove me wrong then. All I know is that if Stephen Harper had pulled this same sort of vicious undemocratic stunt, a stunt that is going to hand direct poltical power to the racist xenophobic separatists of the Bloc Quebecois, that the Liberal/NDP'ers around here would be saying that he was worse than Hitler. A legitimate election result is being undermined by crass opposition politics right in front of us. No one cares and too many, including those Ottawa press gallery SOB's, are actively cheerleading it. This isn't about what's right for the country. This is Harper Derangement Syndrome gone out of control to the level of psychosis.

[PluggyRug]

All I see with this "coalition" is a bunch of left wing crybabies attempting to usurp democracy because they lost the ball, coupled with the Bloc biting the hand that feeds it.

Beware of what you wish for.

[Zipperfish]

Harper brought this on with his smart-ass brinkmanship. He basically dared the oppostion parties to take him on. Which they indicated they were prepared to do. Which is why Harper had to back off.

[Robair]

Thanos Thanos:

Robair: prove me wrong then. All I know is that if Stephen Harper had pulled this same sort of vicious undemocratic stunt, a stunt that is going to hand direct poltical power to the racist xenophobic separatists of the Bloc Quebecois, that the Liberal/NDP'ers around here would be saying that he was worse than Hitler. A legitimate election result is being undermined by crass opposition politics right in front of us. No one cares and too many, including those Ottawa press gallery SOB's, are actively cheerleading it. This isn't about what's right for the country. This is Harper Derangement Syndrome gone out of control to the level of psychosis.

Lay the blame where it belongs. If you are a minority government, your job is to win confidence of the house. Harper, instead, picks a fight with everybody.

That makes him an idiot if you ask me. And Harper has pulled endless vicious and undemocratic stunts with regards to the Canadian Wheat Board so you can cry to somebody else. I'm sure not going to listen. I hope he gets his ass handed to him.

And if he does, I hope the new government goes about undoing the damage Harper has done to the CWB.

[Thanos]

How about the democracy that the CWB cared so much about when they had farmers who wanted to sell their own grain thrown into jail? What government did that little atrocity happen under, just in case anyone forgot? What party's fought tooth and nail throughout it's entire existence to ensure that individual property rights will never exist in Canada and that individual Canadians will be fully without rights or recourse to the law in the face of full blown politically-motivated Big Brother government assaults against them? Oh, that's right, the fucking LIBERALS once again.

LIBERAL = destroyer of democracy any time that they don't get their way.

[DerbyX]

Thats funny. They lost in 2006 under democracy then again last month again under democracy. Both times Harper subverted democracy be bully politics and of course breaking his own election law.

Now he wants to subvert it by not governing with the minority mandate the voters gave him. Instead of governing democratically he instead is trying to bully the opposition which he promptly backed down from once the opposition told him they wouldn't be bullied.

If the other parties can manage to get along to form a govt then thats the very definition of democracy.

[Thanos]

You negate my vote in an election and then expect me to sit back in silence and just take it? You get down on your knees and start blowing away to the pleasure of a separatist party that wants to destroy our country?

The Liberals arrogance knows no boundaries. You bastards wanted war, you got one.

[Robair]

Thanos Thanos:

How about the democracy that the CWB cared so much about when they had farmers who wanted to sell their own grain thrown into jail?

When that happened, the federal government was in control of the board. Now the board is elected by farmers. This board election is what Harper has been messing with. And he's had his hands slapped in court for it a couple of times for good reason too.

If you want to get into a conversation on the kinds of crap Harper has been pulling with the CWB, look up any one of my threads on the topic. But it sounds like you need to get current if you're still talking about jailed farmers, a lot has happened since then.