[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

You been hanging out with ol' "Night Train" Eddie Teach again and listening to all the nasty things he sez about me? Wha'd I ever do to you?

I wonder where they are now. Just me, you, zig and lily left from that crowd. I think. Lil might know a couple more hiding ehreabouts.

[Thanos]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

You been hanging out with ol' "Night Train" Eddie Teach again and listening to all the nasty things he sez about me? Wha'd I ever do to you?

I wonder where they are now. Just me, you, zig and lily left from that crowd. I think. Lil might know a couple more hiding ehreabouts.

Knowing the direction Eddie was going means he probably ended up at Ruby Ridge to wait out the apocalypse or something. I'd like to see Canuck come back. He was making mincemeat out of the Bush supporters at Ranters Roost before they up and banned him. Fascist bastards.

[ziggy]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

I am not planning on it. But if my wife and I ever got divorced I would give her everything we have and start over myself. I would also expect to pay for her living expenses until she either remarries or is suitably employed for 2 to 3 years, making enough to live better than just surviving.
I can't see doing any less for messing up our lives whether her fault or mine. Unless of course the old nasty fidelity snake raised it's ugly head. Then I would say I would have to do some serious thinking.

Yup,and it wont have to be infidelity to make things ugly.
Divorce does that to people,makes things ugly as each side wants to win.
I would give you a month into a seperation before you changed your tune.
Especially if she's talking to her gal pals.Kiss your pension goodbye.

I think its a two way street though,I've seen guys in BC who couldnt quit their jobs because they were paying support for someone else's kids.
I have also seen guys bragging about getting a whack of money back at tax time for their support payments which used to piss me off.
That was a few years ago and it's changed now.No more write off's which is good and probably the reason lots stopped paying and the laws then got changed so you cant get a drivers licence,registration,or anything if your on the govt. blacklist for non support payments.

Best advice I could ever give is do the payout,buy her a house,give her your pensions and sign off and move on. Some folks like to hang on and drag out the fight so that they win(or think they did) and divorce will involve her and your family and friends for many years.

Or you could split mutually but that rarely works.
I'm speaking from the voice of experience.
When I was married I said the same thing,I didnt want to fight.

My mom also was reduced to nothing after there divorce and clawed her way back and pulled off some major acomplishments.Proof that you can start over if you want to.

Both sides are guilty here and the kids should be given first priority,if the mom stayed at home to raise them then untill their 18 he should pay support or daycare so she can work.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

You been hanging out with ol' "Night Train" Eddie Teach again and listening to all the nasty things he sez about me? Wha'd I ever do to you?

I wonder where they are now. Just me, you, zig and lily left from that crowd. I think. Lil might know a couple more hiding ehreabouts.

Knowing the direction Eddie was going means he probably ended up at Ruby Ridge to wait out the apocalypse or something. I'd like to see Canuck come back. He was making mincemeat out of the Bush supporters at Ranters Roost before they up and banned him. Fascist bastards.

Ruby's Roost--never 'eard of it. I wonder if ICanGripe is still going.

[Zipperfish]

lily lily:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Oh.... zoof pops in every now and again too.

Zoof-that guy used to tick me off. Mind you I was much more tick-offable back then.

[ziggy]

Thanos Thanos:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

You been hanging out with ol' "Night Train" Eddie Teach again and listening to all the nasty things he sez about me? Wha'd I ever do to you?

I wonder where they are now. Just me, you, zig and lily left from that crowd. I think. Lil might know a couple more hiding ehreabouts.

Knowing the direction Eddie was going means he probably ended up at Ruby Ridge to wait out the apocalypse or something. I'd like to see Canuck come back. He was making mincemeat out of the Bush supporters at Ranters Roost before they up and banned him. Fascist bastards.

Canuck reminds me of monty burns and benoit reminds me of Malcolm.
Big time!

Ed's probably hosting some 9/11 symposium in northern BC in the bush.

[novachick]

ziggy ziggy:

CanAm1 CanAm1:

I am not planning on it. But if my wife and I ever got divorced I would give her everything we have and start over myself. I would also expect to pay for her living expenses until she either remarries or is suitably employed for 2 to 3 years, making enough to live better than just surviving.
I can't see doing any less for messing up our lives whether her fault or mine. Unless of course the old nasty fidelity snake raised it's ugly head. Then I would say I would have to do some serious thinking.

Yup,and it wont have to be infidelity to make things ugly.
Divorce does that to people,makes things ugly as each side wants to win.
I would give you a month into a seperation before you changed your tune.
Especially if she's talking to her gal pals.Kiss your pension goodbye.

I think its a two way street though,I've seen guys in BC who couldnt quit their jobs because they were paying support for someone else's kids.
I have also seen guys bragging about getting a whack of money back at tax time for their support payments which used to piss me off.
That was a few years ago and it's changed now.No more write off's which is good and probably the reason lots stopped paying and the laws then got changed so you cant get a drivers licence,registration,or anything if your on the govt. blacklist for non support payments.

Best advice I could ever give is do the payout,buy her a house,give her your pensions and sign off and move on. Some folks like to hang on and drag out the fight so that they win(or think they did) and divorce will involve her and your family and friends for many years.

Or you could split mutually but that rarely works.
I'm speaking from the voice of experience.
When I was married I said the same thing,I didnt want to fight.

My mom also was reduced to nothing after there divorce and clawed her way back and pulled off some major acomplishments.Proof that you can start over if you want to.

Both sides are guilty here and the kids should be given first priority,if the mom stayed at home to raise them then untill their 18 he should pay support or daycare so she can work.

She's not talking to her gal pals, she's talking to her lawyer That is the ultimate in low and divorce law as well. A woman who takes a mans pension is low class trash IMHO. How sad is it when he reaches retirement age , he loses a chunk to someone he was married to a lifetime ago. Any children have long since grown. He's already paid his part in that.

It's not about guilt, to me it's about financial accountability and choices. In this case women are not being made financially accountable for their choices in life. It doesn't matter if it was a "we" or a "me" decision. It is quite possible to educate yourself and remain at home, it is quite possible to "work" at home. Also most marriages don't break down in five minutes. It's usually a long drawn out process, use that time accordingly.

[ziggy]

The chicks allways talk to their gal pals for advice and thats why 2 weeks after the "I wont milk you speech" you get the letter from her lawyer telling you how your going to get milked.

They talk.

[Thanos]

ziggy ziggy:

Canuck reminds me of monty burns and benoit reminds me of Malcolm.
Big time!

Ed's probably hosting some 9/11 symposium in northern BC in the bush.

Canuck was much more of an centrist extremist than anything else. He got the righties at Ranters to hate his guts as much as the lefties at TalkOn did. He'd have a field day at this place but he's probably off fighting forest fires or still searching for corpses in New Orleans or something.

I miss Scott. His one-liners made a lot more sense than those of others I could think of.

Ed was too scared of skeeters and chiggers to go into the brush. He wouldn't want to leave his internet connection in the bunker behind for too long a period anyway.

[novachick]

ziggy ziggy:

The chicks allways talk to their gal pals for advice and thats why 2 weeks after the "I wont milk you speech" you get the letter from her lawyer telling you how your going to get milked.

They talk.

See should have sent her to me. I would have made her feel lower than a snakes belly for even thinking of taking it.

Truth be told too, man do lawyers go batshit if you say, you don't want something. First they go . Then they argue with you for 6 days about you not taking it. Thankfully they usually get it when you say "if you don't FUCK OFF and stop pestering me, I'll get a new lawyer"

[ziggy]

novachick novachick:

ziggy ziggy:

The chicks allways talk to their gal pals for advice and thats why 2 weeks after the "I wont milk you speech" you get the letter from her lawyer telling you how your going to get milked.

They talk.

See should have sent her to me. I would have made her feel lower than a snakes belly for even thinking of taking it.

Truth be told too, man do lawyers go batshit if you say, you don't want something. First they go . Then they argue with you for 6 days about you not taking it. Thankfully they usually get it when you say "if you don't FUCK OFF and stop pestering me, I'll get a new lawyer"

Most lawyers I know start licking their lips at that point.

[novachick]

ziggy ziggy:

novachick novachick:

ziggy ziggy:

The chicks allways talk to their gal pals for advice and thats why 2 weeks after the "I wont milk you speech" you get the letter from her lawyer telling you how your going to get milked.

They talk.

See should have sent her to me. I would have made her feel lower than a snakes belly for even thinking of taking it.

Truth be told too, man do lawyers go batshit if you say, you don't want something. First they go . Then they argue with you for 6 days about you not taking it. Thankfully they usually get it when you say "if you don't FUCK OFF and stop pestering me, I'll get a new lawyer"

Most lawyers I know start licking their lips at that point.

Very true It's like watching vultures circle their prey

[Thanos]

lily lily:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

You been hanging out with ol' "Night Train" Eddie Teach again and listening to all the nasty things he sez about me? Wha'd I ever do to you?

I wonder where they are now. Just me, you, zig and lily left from that crowd. I think. Lil might know a couple more hiding ehreabouts.

There are a few others hanging out on some other boards, but the only one I really keep in touch with is GerryH.

And shame on you for it!

[acidcomplex]

lily lily:

I got the job with no training, eh? Where did I say that?

Right here:

"She stressed that she wasn't worried about my relative lack of experience"

[acidcomplex]

lily lily:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

lily lily:

I got the job with no training, eh? Where did I say that?

Right here:

"She stressed that she wasn't worried about my relative lack of experience"

Yes and?

Where does that say I had no training?

Um the "relative lack of experience" part might be an indicator. Just out of curiosity how is that going?. Did the "getting all new staff" thing work out so far?