[fifeboy]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

I filled up my Jetta more than two weeks ago at $62.00. Just hit the half-tank mark on Friday on my way home from work. I can get up to 1000km on a single tank. No EV can even come close to that on a full charge. I can also refuel within minutes, whereas an EV take quite a bit of time to charge, even at a supercharger.

-J.

When I had it I loved my diesel Jetta’!

[CDN_PATRIOT]

It's not a diesel.


-J.

[fifeboy]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

It's not a diesel.


-J.

Still a good car.

[Tricks]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

I filled up my Jetta more than two weeks ago at $62.00. Just hit the half-tank mark on Friday on my way home from work. I can get up to 1000km on a single tank. No EV can even come close to that on a full charge. I can also refuel within minutes, whereas an EV take quite a bit of time to charge, even at a supercharger.

-J.

Except you can probably fully charge an EV 5 times for 62 dollars. And the long range model 3 is rated for 568 km, so lets say 400. That means your doubling your effective range for the same money.

And be glad you don't need premium.

[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

I filled up my Jetta more than two weeks ago at $62.00. Just hit the half-tank mark on Friday on my way home from work. I can get up to 1000km on a single tank. No EV can even come close to that on a full charge. I can also refuel within minutes, whereas an EV take quite a bit of time to charge, even at a supercharger.

-J.

Except you can probably fully charge an EV 5 times for 62 dollars. And the long range model 3 is rated for 568 km, so lets say 400. That means your doubling your effective range for the same money.

And be glad you don't need premium.

And you can plug it into the wall of your home, instead of driving around looking for a nickle off gas.

[raydan]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And you can plug it into the wall of your home, instead of driving around looking for a nickle off gas.

Now imagine company plugging in their car over the weekend and mooching your electricity.

Then we'll have people from Ontario coming to Québec to plug in their car because it's cheaper.

[DrCaleb]

raydan raydan:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And you can plug it into the wall of your home, instead of driving around looking for a nickle off gas.

Now imagine company plugging in their car over the weekend and mooching your electricity.

Yea, the $1 in electricity would break me.

raydan raydan:

Then we'll have people from Ontario coming to Québec to plug in their car because it's cheaper.

Degens from Ottawa.

[herbie]

So the $80 fillup on Thursday cost me $88 to refill on Sunday.
Liberals: because 8/80 x 100 in 3 days = 2% inflation per year
Tories: because the Liberal Carbon Tax increases $3 a day
NDP: cuz you're getting ripped off and we all know it, but you won't vote for us because we 'can't win'

[Zipperfish]

raydan raydan:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And you can plug it into the wall of your home, instead of driving around looking for a nickle off gas.

Now imagine company plugging in their car over the weekend and mooching your electricity.

Then we'll have people from Ontario coming to Québec to plug in their car because it's cheaper.

Except you get a ticket in Gatineau for having Ontario plates. lolol

[CDN_PATRIOT]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And you can plug it into the wall of your home

Ah, but therein lies another piece of the problem. Most of us don't own homes and/or rent apartments because we simply cannot any facet of home ownership. EVs are for rich people who can afford to have outlets installed in their homes and plug them in whenever they want.

What I am supposed to do 20 years from now, run a 200 foot extension cord from the bottom of my building to the far end of the parking lot? Not bloody likely!

-J.

[herbie]

All multi-unit buildings in Vancouver must have a mandated number of charging units now. If your city hasn't mandated that 20 years from now, you should move somewhere in the real world.
Better yet, if you're convinced you can't and never will own your own home you should've left wherever the hell you are yesterday.
Like Grampa could move to another country half way around the world, Dad could move "all the way to Burnaby" and my sisters and I could move to the Valley and then the Interior or Nova Scotia, it's hard to unerstand why the nieces and nephews just fucking can't even think about leaving the Big Smoke.

[bootlegga]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

And you can plug it into the wall of your home

Ah, but therein lies another piece of the problem. Most of us don't own homes and/or rent apartments because we simply cannot any facet of home ownership. EVs are for rich people who can afford to have outlets installed in their homes and plug them in whenever they want.

What I am supposed to do 20 years from now, run a 200 foot extension cord from the bottom of my building to the far end of the parking lot? Not bloody likely!

-J.

EVs aren't for rich people anymore than pick-up trucks are for rich people - in fact, trucks often cost far more than EV sedans do, with EVs starting at $40,000 and pick-ups starting at about $60,000.

For your second point, for mass adoption of EVs, we'll need a massive investment in infrastructure to support them, which for apartmnet/condo dwellers would be EV charging ports in the parking garage/parking lot.

I don't know about Ontario, but most parking lots here already have outlets you can plug your car into to stop it from freezing into an ice cube during the day in the winter, so it would require swapping those out and replacing them with charging ports. However, given the difference in the size of the charging port and a regular plug-in, it may mean some parking stalls are lost in the conversion.

I doubt most existing condo buildings have the financial wherewithal to install several hundred charging ports, so we'll need some sort of program, either government run grants or private sector investment to make that a reality. Obviously, you'd pay whomever installs the charging port for your electricity, much like you pay a gas station for your gas. I'd prefer some sort of system that lets me choose the provider, much the same way I can choose to get my gas from any gas station.

Whatever the solution is, someone needs to figure something out and get the ball rolling.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

That I can agree with.


-J.

[herbie]

What's gonna happen is they'll just jack up the price of ICE vehicles until there's no difference.
Just like how after a term of Trump and all his America First rants and promises, every 'new' vehicle model is being built in Mexico...

[Strutz]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I doubt most existing condo buildings have the financial wherewithal to install several hundred charging ports, so we'll need some sort of program, either government run grants or private sector investment to make that a reality. Obviously, you'd pay whomever installs the charging port for your electricity, much like you pay a gas station for your gas. I'd prefer some sort of system that lets me choose the provider, much the same way I can choose to get my gas from any gas station.

The condo complex I live in (3 adjoining buildings, 185 units) addressed installing charging stations (2 I think it was) in our AGM in January 2020. It was going to be at a cost of $15,000 to be taken from the contingency fund. It would have taken away 2 visitor spots, which we have few of, and would have been accessible to anyone not even living there. It was shot down. For whatever reason the question did not come up in the 2021 AGM.