[Tricks]

llama66 llama66:

Still doen't change criminal law operates on the predication of innocence until proven guilty,

As judged by a jury of your peers. He's been judged.

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and the accused's right to a defence.

Was he not provided a lawyer if he couldn't get one himself?

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Further, it doesn't change the State still has to prove the Actus Reas and the Mens Rea.

Action:Did he drive into the crowd? Yes, according to the jury.
Did he mean to drive into the crowd? Yes, according to the jury.

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It may apply, but can the prosecution prove beyond the shadow of a doubt remains to be seen.

No, it doesn't remain to be seen. He's been convicted. So the prosecution did it's job.

[llama66]

Federal Conviction still incoming, good sir. I'm not disagreeing with you just saying there could be a shadow of doubt.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I don't see how you can intend to drive a motor vehicle into a crowd of people at high speed, and not intend to kill someone.

People panic, they get confused, they do crazy shit. Old people have done the same thing and had this been an 80yo black grandmother who was in the same car, doing the same thing, killing the same girl, no one would be claiming to magically perceive her premeditated intent.

Yeah, because a violent Nazi with a police record for beating up his own mother is equitable with a senior citizen with bad eyesight and dementia.

Do you guys even listen to yourselves when you say things like this?

[llama66]

Unless he has membership with the NSDAP he's not a Nazi. He's a piece of shit. Call him that.

[Tricks]

llama66 llama66:

Federal Conviction still incoming, good sir. I'm not disagreeing with you just saying there could be a shadow of doubt.

Which isn't really going to matter. He's already convicted at the state level.

[llama66]

fair enough.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, because a violent Nazi with a police record for beating up his own mother is equitable with a senior citizen with bad eyesight and dementia.

Do you guys even listen to yourselves when you say things like this?

Due process protections and civil rights protections exist for precisely the kinds of people we don't like and who are unpopular.

Case in point: Asia Bibi in Pakistan.

Despite the fact that rabid mobs want to kill and murder every Christian simply for being a Christian and despite how unpopular Bibi is in Pakistan the decent people over there stood up for due process and refused to convict her of a crime just because people hate her.

Likewise, this kid is a piece of work, I get it. I don't like him either.

But there's no case there for 1st degree capital murder and he should not have been tried for it.

Why not try him for murdering Jews in the 1940's? I'm sure we could find twelve fanatics who'd vote to convict him of Nazi war crimes.

But would that be justice just because you can get a conviction?

Not in my eyes.

[Thanos]

Prosecutors, judge, and jury thought otherwise when they brought the charges for first-degree and found him guilty on them. The fantastical (and farcical) interpretations of the chattering classes mean absolutely nothing. The actual law is what matters, not the conversations of fools on Breitbart or Infowars who are dreaming up justifications out of thin air for one of their own.

The right is now where the left was forty years ago, making excuses for the worst behaviours of their own simply because of a shared ideology. It's not just disrespect for the law or encouraging the law to be broken. It's actively pretending that the law doesn't exist at all, that the constitution is just some kind play-anytime-card to justify doing what you want to whoever you want to hurt instead of the basic framework of a set of rules that a society needs to function, something that's absolutely required to prevent it from sliding into total chaos and barbarism. The concept that you're free to do what you want as long as you don't violate someone else's rights or bring physical jeopardy to them simply because you don't like them is effectively dead. It's now just dangerous children in adult bodies, on a one-way me-first path of total personal selfishness and lack of responsibility, trying to destroy as much as they can as quickly as they can simply because they think it's funny.

[BeaverFever]

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White supremacist sentenced to life in prison for Charlottesville hate crimes

Reuters
Killer of Heather Heyer at rally will be sentenced for murder in separate case

Posted: 39 Minutes Ago
Last Updated: 16 Minutes Ago

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James Alex Fields Jr., is seen on Aug. 12, 2017 during the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va. He was prosecuted at the federal level for hate crimes and at the state level for Heather Heyer's homicide. (Eze Amos/Reuters)
A federal judge imposed a life sentence on the self-described neo-Nazi who killed Heather Heyer by crashing his car into a crowd of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Va., after a white supremacist rally, saying release would be "too great a risk."

The 22-year-old neo-Nazi, James Fields of Maumee, Ohio, was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. He had sought a lesser sentence, apologizing after the court viewed video of him plowing his car into a crowd after the Aug. 12, 2017 rally, called Unite the Right. Nineteen people were also injured from the deliberate act.

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U.S. District Judge Michael Urbanski, was unmoved by his plea, saying he had had to avert his eyes while the court viewed graphic video of the attack that showed bodies flying into the air as Fields crashed into them.

"Just watching them is terrifying," Urbanski said. "The release of the defendant into a free society is too great a risk."

The violence shook the college town at the end of two days of rallies by avowed white nationalists, who marched first with torches and later with medieval-style shields.

U.S. President Donald Trump was criticized from the left and right for initially saying there were "fine people on both sides" of the dispute between neo-Nazis and their opponents at the rally...

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5194416

Or as Breitbart, the “non-liberal media” and their CKA supporters would report it: LIBERAL COURTS PERSECUTE ‘VERY FINE PERSON’ FOR SPONTANEOUS HEART ATTACK THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING HIT BY SPEEDING CAR AT THE SAME TIME

[stratos]

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Or as Breitbart, the “non-liberal media” and their CKA supporters would report it: LIBERAL COURTS PERSECUTE ‘VERY FINE PERSON’ FOR SPONTANEOUS HEART ATTACK THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING HIT BY SPEEDING CAR AT THE SAME TIME

Please submit link to this statement from Breitbart or admit you just are so filled with hate that you will use any excuses to attack the right even this horrendous crime.

Now as for the verdict. I hope he gets fitted with a very tight crouch hugging inmate suit and his cell mate has a raging hard on for him. I'm not up on each states term of "without parole" means but I sure hope it means what it says. Some places without parole means 20 years then they can try for it.

ROT IN JAIL YOU POS and my your butt hole end up bigger than a mack trucks tail pipe.

[BartSimpson]

When Beaver outrages himself at something he made up just let him go.

[BeaverFever]

Why don’t you guys ask Fiddle he was the one making those claims on here

[llama66]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Why don’t you guys ask Fiddle he was the one making those claims on here

Cite sources.

[BeaverFever]

llama66 llama66:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Why don’t you guys ask Fiddle he was the one making those claims on here

Cite sources.

You can read all the usual CKA righties defending and apologizing for this killer in the thread below over 17 pages. And they provide links to their shitstain right wing blogs and YouTubes as evidence (some of the links are no longer working, conveniently).

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/current- ... t=Violence

[Tricks]

Yeah I remember the whole "heart attack" defense thing. That was quite honestly one of the most pathetic attempts at defending outright murder I've ever seen.