[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

The problem with Ezra Levant isn't that he's a shit disturber, it's that he doesn't check his facts to ensure they're 100% accurate, which is wrong. If you're going to be the "beacon of free speech" you'd better ensure that the facts are accurate because you're opponents are going to call you on every one of them hoping, that by flinging shit something sticks which, in this case it did.

That's only half his problem. The other half is that he just plain makes shit up.

Remember the 'unscripted' interview with random 'Alberta Oilpatch' worker? Or tweeting about Muslim terrorists in Quebec City that turned out to be Quebecois shooting people in a Mosque? Or news organizations getting stock footage of protesters, and the 'rebel' reporting it as staging fake protests by CNN just a few days ago? Or citing StatsCan studies that never happen?

And most often, they cite themselves as sources for their stories. Always a no-no.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-rebel/

Ezra has a credibility problem going back a long way. I don't see at this point how he can overcome it and present himself as credible given his intentionally manufacturing things over the years. That says things about his deeply flawed character that people aren't willing to overlook.

[BeaverFever]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

The problem with Ezra Levant isn't that he's a shit disturber, it's that he doesn't check his facts to ensure they're 100% accurate, which is wrong. If you're going to be the "beacon of free speech" you'd better ensure that the facts are accurate because you're opponents are going to call you on every one of them hoping, that by flinging shit something sticks which, in this case it did.

And for the record, being sued by the left for your beliefs doesn't qualify you as a Canadian Hero anymore than being part of the LGBTQ fringe and stopping others from exercising their right of free speech makes you one.

So, if he keeps on posting stories that the mainstream media avoids, hopefully he gets his head out of his ass and makes sure that those same stories are accurate beyond reproach because, every loss in court makes it easier for his opponents to attack the messenger rather than the message.

Yeah you don't have to bbe 100% accurate 100% of the time but when your stories are usually somewhere between 0% and 10% accurate and 90- 100% innuendo and pure fabrication, it's going to cost you your credibility

[raydan]

Ezra is an attention whore... always has been, always will be.

The libel suits are just the price he has to pay to satisfy that... and if he can't pay, his loving fans will surely pay them for him.

[JaredMilne]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

The problem with Ezra Levant isn't that he's a shit disturber, it's that he doesn't check his facts to ensure they're 100% accurate, which is wrong. If you're going to be the "beacon of free speech" you'd better ensure that the facts are accurate because you're opponents are going to call you on every one of them hoping, that by flinging shit something sticks which, in this case it did.

That's only half his problem. The other half is that he just plain makes shit up.

Remember the 'unscripted' interview with random 'Alberta Oilpatch' worker? Or tweeting about Muslim terrorists in Quebec City that turned out to be Quebecois shooting people in a Mosque? Or news organizations getting stock footage of protesters, and the 'rebel' reporting it as staging fake protests by CNN just a few days ago? Or citing StatsCan studies that never happen?

And most often, they cite themselves as sources for their stories. Always a no-no.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-rebel/

Ezra has a credibility problem going back a long way. I don't see at this point how he can overcome it and present himself as credible given his intentionally manufacturing things over the years. That says things about his deeply flawed character that people aren't willing to overlook.

What's really pathetic about the Porter Airlines issue is that Ezra is essentially pissing and moaning about the fact that a private business has chosen to spend its money in a way that he doesn't like. It's portrayed as some sort of free speech issue, when it's really just the free market at work.

Oh, and he's also essentially playing the race card. If you look at the Twitter thread where he complains about this, even fellow conservatives are calling him out for this.

I'm reminded yet again about the time that Sun News closed its doors. Many people on this site, including people with Conservative Party of Canada logos in their profiles, were glad to see it gone, and they specifically cited Ezra as a reason they were glad it was gone.

But DrCaleb and Freakingoldguy have touched on the best way to deal with Ezra Levant:

Just let him speak.

Any time somebody files suit against him, or otherwise tries to retaliate against him, he can portray himself as a free speech martyr. But if you let him take enough rope, sooner or later, he will eventually and inevitably hang himself with it. He's been repeatedly criticized for his failures at fact checking, and he's repeatedly made himself look like a fool with many of his rants, most notably the Trudeau bride-kissing incident.

Really, he's his own worst enemy.

[Public_Domain]

[BartSimpson]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

i don't remember his stance but i bet he supported those homophobic bakeries

Yes, because all businesses MUST exhibit approved opinions like the good Soviet citizens you expect them to be.

[BRAH]

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[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Ezra is a Canadian hero. The censorious Left keeps attacking him with its only real weapon of shut uppery. He responds by continuing on, calling for politically incorrect justice in many cases throughout the news cycle. New ones each week. The wannabe totalitarians of the left might appear to win a battle here Andy there, but Ezra and his free speech army is winning the war. Rebel Media just keeps getting bigger. It's global now, and the rest of the world is watching the Canadian injustice system disgrace itself.

Shockey...Shockey...wake up dude, your supposed to be in doggy mode...wake up man

[N_Fiddledog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

That's only half his problem. The other half is that he just plain makes shit up.

Actually the only person I see making things up so far is you.

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Remember the 'unscripted' interview with random 'Alberta Oilpatch' worker?

Yes, I remember that. So does the CBC. What of it? It was unscripted.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/r ... -1.3772890

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Or tweeting about Muslim terrorists in Quebec City that turned out to be Quebecois shooting people in a Mosque?

The tweeting I don't remember, but I do remember their reports. They never claimed Muslim terrorists were responsible. They claimed there were a lot of unanswered questions about that attack and said they would continue to ask them.

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Or news organizations getting stock footage of protesters, and the 'rebel' reporting it as staging fake protests by CNN just a few days ago?

That's not what I saw. What I saw was Rebel echoing accusations that went viral as a result of footage filmed by an observer on his cell phone. CNN denied the claims. Rebel presented both the accusations and the denial from CNN. The story was also covered by other media.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/05/cn ... n-coverage

Rebel's UK rep also presented a rebuttal where he interviewed the guy who filmed the footage of CNN organizing their presentation. They showed more video.

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Or citing StatsCan studies that never happen?

That one I don't know but it sounds a bit like one I disagreed with another regressive on. He also claimed to have the data. But once I looked into it, and as I remember it was something like he had data all right, but it didn't reflect on what Ezra actually said. It was more just his opinion on what he hoped Ezra secretly believed in the hidden recesses of his mind, or something like that.

But by all means present your links. Let's check em out.

[N_Fiddledog]

Now as to the Porter Airlines issue, that's more just a pissing contest.

Leftist professional boycotters pressured Porter to boycott Rebel. They called Ezra Racist. Porter bought in to their bullshit and publicly boasted they were going to add Rebel to what they called their "Blacklist".

Rebel might have made 10 bucks a month from google ads where a Porter ad might have landed on Rebel in a big month. That wasn't what it was about. The BDS style boycotters picked a fight. Ezra likes to fight. They called him a racist. Ezra doesn't like being called a racist. He's a jew. Blacks and Arabs work at Rebel. He'd like to keep them.

So basically it was more like "Who you calling racist, you jew haters. You think your boycott hurts me. I have 750,000 subscribers, and I'm going give them a Boycott Porter website to kill some time on."

Apparently 6,000 people went to that website and signed up for his Porter boycott.

[BeaverFever]

Porter didn't call Levant a racist, he's playing the race card plain and simple. You can make as many desperate and twisted excuses as you like and claim he doesn't really mean what he's saying but we all know it's just your usual desperate bullshit.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Porter didn't call Levant a racist, he's playing the race card plain and simple. You can make as many desperate and twisted excuses as you like and claim he doesn't really mean what he's saying but we all know it's just your usual desperate bullshit.

The desperation is all yours buddy. I see you begin with a lie.

I didn't say Porter called Ezra racist. I claimed (and I'll admit I'm not sure how much or even if the claim of "professional" is technically factual or not) that "Leftist professional boycotters pressured Porter to boycott Rebel. They called Ezra Racist."

I'll come clean and admit I don't know if the group is professional (it smells Soros-y to me, is my only claim), but Sleeping Giants is an advertising boycott group and their mission statement is like this:

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Sleeping Giants CA describes itself as “trying to stop racist websites by stopping their ad dollars” and posts updates on companies that they have allegedly successfully convinced in this regard.

http://www.citynews.ca/2017/06/07/porte ... bel-media/

The guy who started the call to arms against Rebel did so with this tweet referencing Sleeping Giants.

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Hey @porterairlines! Your ad appears on racist & bigoted RebelMedia. Fly clear skies w/o RebelMedia in your media buy @slpng_giants_ca pic.twitter.com/L6erS07UTx

— SayBlade (@SayBlade) June 4, 2017

Sleeping Giants itself then turned up and continued the pressure.

Calling Rebel racist was both implicit and explicit. Also a lie.

[N_Fiddledog]

I will however say now that when Porter buys into Sleeping Giants ad boycott campaign and uses a word like "Blacklist" it implies they're on board with SG's slur of "racist."

[BeaverFever]

So you're saying Levant is calling Porter racist, even though it's actually not racist and you admit Porter never called Levant racist? And this is all supposedly ok because when Levant accuses Porter of "boycotting a Jewish company" he doesn't really mean it and actually trying to get the public to read between the lines to find hidden deeper meaning, all in the cause of scoring rhetorical points in s proxy war against some online activist group ?

Sounds pretty fair fetched and you're beginning for us to provide him with a level of tolerance for nuance that he would he never provide to any if his opponents.



Sounds like you're pretty desperate

[Thanos]

All the accusation is one-way, as shown by that tweet I posted on the first page of this thread where Levant openly called Porter "anti semetic". Any other interpretation is just more of the right-wing gong-show.