[fifeboy]

martin14 martin14:

fifeboy fifeboy:

What you are telling me is that Islam has done little to stop the practice. This is not good, but Andy now tells us that Islam has called for an end to it. If it were an Islamic practice it would be going in in Indonesia. Is it?

You relying on andy for anything besides the best locations to shoot your heroin is putting faith in an idiot.

So sorry to destroy your naivete in believing anything he says because
it fits your multicultural delusions.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence ... by_country

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Indonesia (Type I and IV)
FGM is prevalent in Indonesia.[150][151][152] In certain communities of Indonesia, mass female circumcision (khitanan massal) ceremony are organized by local Islamic foundations around Prophet Muhammad’s birthday. Some FGM are Type IV done with a pen knife, others are Type I done with scissors. Two Indonesian nationwide studies in 2003 and 2010 found over 80% of Muslim girls are subjected to cutting, typically newborns through the age of 9. More than 90% of adults claimed they wanted the practice to continue.[151][153]




Historical records suggest female circumcision in Indonesia started and became prevalent with the arrival of Islam in the 13th century as part of its drive to convert people to Islam. In islands of Indonesia, where partial populations converted to Islam in 17th century, FGM has been prevalent in Muslim females only.[154][155] In 2006, FGM was banned by the government; however, FGM/C remained commonplace for women in Indonesia - the world’s largest Muslim nation.[156] In 2010, the Indonesian Health Ministry issued a decree outlining the proper procedure for FGM, which activists claim contradicted the 2006 ruling prohibiting clinics from performing any FGM.[157] In 2013, the Indonesian Ulema Council ruled that it favors FGM, stating that although it is not mandatory, it is still “morally recommended”.[158] The Ulema has been pushing Indonesian government to circumcise girls, claiming it is part of Islamic teachings.[159] Some Indonesian officials, in March 2013, claimed cutting and pricking type circumcision is not FGM.[160]

So, andy has been desperately trying to limit this by saying 'it's an African thing.'

It isn't, it is practised all over Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.
Which is just about the entire Islamic areas.
Open that link and look for yourself. I dare you.

Well, you are right.
http://www.theislamicmonthly.com/a-tiny-cut-female-circumcision-in-south-east-asia/
It appears to be a little more complicated than you indicated but you were right. Circumcision can be a problem.

[N_Fiddledog]

Good for the British. They're finally prosecuting somebody. Last week there was an EDL rally against FMG, and this week there's the first prosecution. That's the way it works. Worked that way for grooming gangs too.

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/whittingt ... 1_3488401'

And this one looks like a Type 3 case too.

[Yogi]

Actually, clitorectomies were the brainchild of a Macho Muslim Man (is there any other kind?) so that he could roll off after 3 short strokes, puff out his chest and exclaim "It ain't my fault you didn't cum"!

[fifeboy]

Interesting podcast here. I know, don't go shit head on me, it's not the same thing as imposed FGM, but it's still interesting how our society dictates to people how they should look and what they should do about it.
http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/current_20140402_17949.mp3

[N_Fiddledog]

Yeah, cause some silly Sally with too much money and not enough common sense, looking up from her Sex and the City reruns long enough to think to herself "Hmmm...you know what I need? A cuter labia", is just like dragging a 9 year old onto a plane and screaming into a mud hut in Somalia to have her clitoris sliced off with a rusty knife, and vaginal opening sued narrow enough to only allow urination, to be sliced open in a few years when some old Abdul Bin whatever contracts her for sex, or what some laughingly might try to pass off as marriage, if she doesn't die from infection first.

No, I won't go shithead over that diversion from the conversation. Not much...

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Yeah, cause some silly Sally with too much money and not enough common sense, looking up from her Sex and the City reruns long enough to think to herself "Hmmm...you know what I need? A cuter labia", is just like dragging a 9 year old onto a plane and screaming into a mud hut in Somalia to have her clitoris sliced off with a rusty knife, and vaginal opening sued narrow enough to only allow urination, to be sliced open in a few years when some old Abdul Bin whatever contracts her for sex, or what some laughingly might try to pass off as marriage, if she doesn't die from infection first.

No, I won't go shithead over that diversion from the conversation. Not much...

Ahh!!! to quote myself

fifeboy fifeboy:

Interesting podcast here. I know, don't go shit head on me, it's not the same thing as imposed FGM, but it's still interesting how our society dictates to people how they should look and what they should do about it.

So don't shit yourself in righteous indignation. What I said was that it's interesting. If you don't find it so, it's OK with me, but I didn't equate it with FGM and even stated so!

[N_Fiddledog]

[ShepherdsDog]

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and vaginal opening sued narrow enough to only allow urination

Women urinate out of their vaginas?

[Yogi]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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and vaginal opening sued narrow enough to only allow urination

Women urinate out of their vaginas?

Maybe he knows sumthin we don't!

[Guy_Fawkes]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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and vaginal opening sued narrow enough to only allow urination

Women urinate out of their vaginas?

Maybe post-Op women do?

[ShepherdsDog]

who knows? There`s been a few times I`ve pissed out my asshole......but only after eating food from an unfamiliar street vendor

[N_Fiddledog]

With Type 3 FGM there is a bringing together of the Labia Majora to cover the urethra and vaginal opening or (vaginal introitus) leaving a small posterior opening for urinary and menstrual flow.

Would you like diagrams? Pictures perhaps? I would expect big smarty pants like yourselves would know all that though, so I'm not sure if you're being serious. Are you?

http://www.middle-east-info.org/league/ ... ctures.htm

[N_Fiddledog]

I don't get it.

You are wrong though. We're agreed on that, right?

[Yogi]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

With Type 3 FGM there is a bringing together of the Labia Majora to cover the urethra and vaginal opening or (vaginal introitus) leaving a small posterior opening for urinary and menstrual flow.

Would you like diagrams? Pictures perhaps? I would expect big smarty pants like yourselves would know all that though, so I'm not sure if you're being serious. Are you?

http://www.middle-east-info.org/league/ ... ctures.htm

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