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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:57 pm
 


Since they're in such desperate shape, we should sell them some Subs....


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:26 pm
 


wow the royal navy website is cool!

Can see current deployment of each shit and its stats


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:28 pm
 


Canadaka Canadaka:
wow the royal navy website is cool!

Can see current deployment of each shit and its stats

That sounds extremely nasty.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:03 am
 


Even if there were warships guarding the long British coastline Elf 'N Safety would prevent them firing at the enemy.

Nelson will be turning in his grave.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:11 am
 


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The Brits should swallow their pride and buy US warships and partner with the Yanks on future designs.


We shouldn't be buying ships off anybody else. We should be building our own.

And that is currently what is happening.

Currently under construction on the Clyde in Glasgow are the Type 45 Daring (or D) Class destroyers.

They will be the largest and most powerful destroyers ever operated by the RN and they'll also be the world's most advanced warships.

There will be six of these ships: HMS Daring, HMS Dauntless, HMS Dragon, HMS Diamond, HMS Duncan and HMS Defender. Three of them - Daring, Dauntless and Diamond - have already been commissioned and put into service. Dragon - with a big red dragon painted down either side - is expected in 2012, Defender in 2013 and Duncan in 2014.

Then there are the seven new Astute Class subs, currently under construction in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, in northern England. Again these will be the biggest and most powerful ever operated by the RN. They are: HMS Astute, HMS Ambush, HMS Agamemnon, HMS Artful, HMS Audacious, HMS Ajax and HMS Anson.

Two - HMS Astute and HMS Ambush - have already been completed.

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These huge ‘super-subs’ will be able to make oxygen and fresh water from ­seawater, to keep the 98 crew — it has not yet been decided if this will include women — alive in time of crisis.

And, despite being 50 per cent ­bigger than the ­Swiftsure and ­Trafalgar subs they will replace, the Ambush class is quieter. Their propellers will be able to make less noise than a baby dolphin — making them virtually undetectable to enemy vessels allowing them to sneak up on an enemy ship and blast her out of the water.

More complex than the U.S. Space Shuttles and able to ­circumnavigate the globe ­without surfacing, the subs will be 291ft long — the same length as a football pitch — as wide as four double-decker buses and 12 storeys high. A typical patrol lasts ten weeks, but they could ­theoretically stay underwater for their entire 25-year lifespan.

The subs will carry 38 ­missiles — a mixture of Tomahawk cruise ­missiles, which have a range of 1,240 miles (they could hit places throughout Western Europe and North Africa whilst situated in the English Channel), and Spearfish heavyweight torpedoes to target other ships and submarines.

Their nuclear-powered engines will propel them through the water at more than 20 knots, allowing her to travel 500 miles a day.

Each one will be equipped with the world's most powerful sonar, meaning each one, whilst sitting in Portsmouth Harbour, would be able to detect ships entering and leaving New York Harbour three thousand nautical miles away (the MoD refuse to reveal how the sonars actually work). Each ship will also be able to eavesdrop on people's mobile phone conversations.

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The persicope for each Astute class sub will carry thermal imaging and low-light cameras and will have 360-degree views. The persicopes will need to break the surface of the water for just six seconds and the images will be relayed to a hi-definition screen in the ops room.

There there are also the gargantuan new aircraft carriers to be built, which will be the biggest in the world outside the USN.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:52 am
 


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so...besides having a larger sub force (which is also due to be cut, just not as bad as the surface fleet) the UK has the same size navy as Canada. Interesting.


The RN has 37,300 regular personnel and 2,900 Royal Naval Reserve. In addition, there are 19,600 regular reserves. This gives a total of 59,800 personnel.

It also has 98 ships (including RFA) and 177 aircraft.

The RCN has 8,500 regular personnel and 5,100 Primary Reserve sailors, diving a total of 13,600 personnel. It has 33 ships and 40 aircraft. These include 24 Sea King helicopters, but only 8 of them are available for active service.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:11 am
 


The RCN doesn't have three regiments of these guys either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebto4fU ... re=related

Nice post Batsy but the Yanks build way better ships and subs than the Brits do. With a shrinking defence budget, we should look at getting best value for Defence Pounds over propping up failing UK defence contractors.

There will still be jobs in UK shipyards if the Brits built US warships under licence.

We should be getting the best kit possible, not second-rate home made stuff that costs twice as much and isn't as capable.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:40 am
 


Canadaka Canadaka:
wow the royal navy website is cool!

Can see current deployment of each shit and its stats

:lol: :lol:


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The RCN doesn't have three regiments of these guys either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebto4fU ... re=related


We were supposed form a Marine regiment. Never happened, much like the Amphibious Assault (or BHS) ship that also never happened.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:19 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The RCN doesn't have three regiments of these guys either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebto4fU ... re=related


We were supposed form a Marine regiment. Never happened, much like the Amphibious Assault (or BHS) ship that also never happened.


When were we supposed to form a marine regiment?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:22 pm
 


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saturn_656 saturn_656:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The RCN doesn't have three regiments of these guys either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebto4fU ... re=related


We were supposed form a Marine regiment. Never happened, much like the Amphibious Assault (or BHS) ship that also never happened.


When were we supposed to form a marine regiment?


Read about it quite a while back, it was part of the 2006 Canada First Defence Strategy, you'd be hard pressed to find any mention of it in the current literature. Probably another idea that not only got put on the back burner, but fell behind the stove.

http://naval.review.cfps.dal.ca/archive ... m2art4.pdf

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We also had a short discussion on this here, about two and half years ago.

http://www.canadaka.net/news/44129-the- ... o-regiment


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:49 pm
 


Batsy Batsy:
cool pictures and stuff


Totally awesome! There'll always be an England!

R=UP

(just gather up all those chavs and yobs in one spot and lob one of those Tomahawks right at them and Britain will get fundamentally better and cleaner with one well-placed shot 8) )


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:56 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The RCN doesn't have three regiments of these guys either.

Nice post Batsy but the Yanks build way better ships and subs than the Brits do.

There will still be jobs in UK shipyards if the Brits built US warships under licence.

We should be getting the best kit possible, not second-rate home made stuff that costs twice as much and isn't as capable.


I don't agree. Those Astute class subs will probably be the best there is.

And Britain - and the Royal Navy - should be building its own ships, not some designed by a foreign power.

Also, saying the Astute class subs are second-rate is quite bizarre when they are probably the most technologically advanced submarines ever built; which are able to detect ships entering and leaving New York Harbour whilst stationed at Portsmouth Harbour 3,000 miles away; which have periscopes which only need to break the surface of the water for six seconds; and which, despite their huge size, are as quiet as a baby dolphin.

The sonar that each Astute class sub will be fitted with is known as Sonar 2076. It is the most most advanced and effective sonar in the world and will be fitted to ALL RN subs, not just the new ones.

Support systems include command consoles, upgraded radio communications, upgraded signature reduction, and new flexi couplings to reduce self noise. Sonar 2076 is designed to be fitted into both the new Astute-class submarines and the existing Trafalgar-class submarine, allowing the Royal Navy's entire submarine fleet to have a common sonar system.

BAE claims that the 2076 represents a "step change" over previous sonars and is the world's most advanced and effective sonar system. It is said to have 13,000 hydrophones, many times the number fitted in previous Royal Navy systems and more than any other submarine sonar in the world. The processing power of the system is said to be equivalent to 60,000 home PCs.

Swiftsure and Trafalgar Update manager, Captain Ian Hughes said, "A good analogy for the performance of Sonar 2076 is that if the submarine was in Winchester it would be able to track a double decker bus going round Trafalgar Square" (a distance of 60 miles).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar_2076


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:25 pm
 


I have yet to see a large weapons system that the Yanks have built (aircraft/ship/armoured vehicle/artillery) being bettered by a British version.

Sure, the UK has produced the odd really good bit of kit but most are let down by something.

Engine, range, firepower, accuracy, ease of field operations, reliability, one or more of these issues always lets the UK bit of kit down. Anybody who has served or is serving in HM Forces will know exactly what I mean.


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