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Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

I'd rather you said IPhone. It may be the anti-christ, but it's a respectable platform. Only problem I have with it is that I can't use touch screens.

How is the iPhone a more respectable platform than Android?

New Android trojan can record phone calls

Android apps found infected with rootkit malware

8% Of Android Apps Leak Private Info

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iphone ... ,9136.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/169405/i ... _know.html

http://mashable.com/2009/07/30/iphone-virus/

http://apcmag.com/iphone_virus_or_spywa ... expert.htm

Viruses on phones of the caliber mean nothing, anything can have a virus made for it.

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/25921/

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For example, a third of all free iPhone apps attempted to access the user's geographic location. For the Android platform, about 29 percent of free apps tried to access location data. At least 8 percent of all free Android apps and 14 percent of all free iPhone apps tried to access a user's list of contacts as well.

That's more on the iphone for both.

So again, how is IOS in any way better than android? (I'll give you a hint, it isn't.)

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How many rootkits are there on the iPhone?

Zero.

How many viruses have I had on my three year old iPhone?

Zero

How many has my wife had on her 6 month old android phone?

Three (and she didn't download a ton of apps)

android is a great idea but it's the wild west out there. I want a phone to be a phone and work without becoming a burden yet be able to handle the new programs. Nokia symbian is stable but debs are abandoing it like rats on a sinking ship. BB is trying to clone the iPhone 5 years too late. iPhone has flaws but they also have a solid platform well secured and with an app store that may have tooany fart apps in it but I never have to worry about an app downloaded with a Trojan. Android=headache and the iOS is upgrading every month with more features. In September the iPhone 5 will launch and once again dominate the market as iPhone 4 a year old is still the best selling and adopted phone on the market. You couldn't give me an android phone at this point. Why hitch your wagon to a tree stump?

[Canadian_Mind]

I kept the stock apps, i don't need anything more. A CKA app would be nice though.

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Apple Bests Nokia As World's Top Smartphone Vendor

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Remarkably, Apple's sales record comes nearly a year after it released its latest model, the iPhone 4, and it's still selling millions of the even older iPhone 3GS. Competitors such as Samsung put out new models every few months.

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

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I hope they're not too gay, as I'm supposed to be getting a blackberry torch from work sometime soon. I really hope it's decent enough for me to use as just my regular phone as well, cause I don't want to have to carry 2 phones around.

I had one at my last job and they are great. They work well as phones and the email function is pretty awesome too - I love that they synch with your regular email.

The iPhone is just a handheld unit designed to sell you more products. Sometimes it makes phone calls.

My Blackberry is a tool I use to do my job. It has apps that I can purchase to enhance that. That is the way I like it. People love to hate Lotus Notes, but the integration is flawless! Same with Instant messaging - perfectly secure.

Try that with an iPhone.

[Regina]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The iPhone is just a handheld unit designed to sell you more products. Sometimes it makes phone calls.

My Blackberry is a tool I use to do my job. It has apps that I can purchase to enhance that. That is the way I like it. People love to hate Lotus Notes, but the integration is flawless! Same with Instant messaging - perfectly secure.

Try that with an iPhone.

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How many rootkits are there on the iPhone?

Zero.

How many jailbreak programs? Hundreds. Many of which have used security flaws within iOS to jailbreak it.

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How many viruses have I had on my three year old iPhone?

Zero

How many has my wife had on her 6 month old android phone?

Three (and she didn't download a ton of apps)

Nice anecdotal evidence.

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android is a great idea but it's the wild west out there. I want a phone to be a phone and work without becoming a burden yet be able to handle the new programs.

Do you have a Mac too?

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Android=headache

None of my friends have had problems with theirs. I haven't heard of a single case of viruses. (See why anecdotal evidence doesn't work?)

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and the iOS is upgrading every month with more features.

And yet Android still has more. I have an iPhone, but I don't even upgrade it anymore cause I don't feel like re-jailbreaking.

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In September the iPhone 5 will launch and once again dominate the market as iPhone 4 a year old is still the best selling and adopted phone on the market.

It will be the best selling phone, but not the best selling platform. Android sales are outpacing Apple.

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You couldn't give me an android phone at this point. Why hitch your wagon to a tree stump?

The Android platform is growing faster than iOS, becoming far more revolutionary than iOS, and the phones that Android is being used on are better than iPhones. With ice cream sandwich and the unification of tablet and phone OS.

[bootlegga]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

bootlegga bootlegga:

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I hope they're not too gay, as I'm supposed to be getting a blackberry torch from work sometime soon. I really hope it's decent enough for me to use as just my regular phone as well, cause I don't want to have to carry 2 phones around.

I had one at my last job and they are great. They work well as phones and the email function is pretty awesome too - I love that they synch with your regular email.

The iPhone is just a handheld unit designed to sell you more products. Sometimes it makes phone calls.

My Blackberry is a tool I use to do my job. It has apps that I can purchase to enhance that. That is the way I like it. People love to hate Lotus Notes, but the integration is flawless! Same with Instant messaging - perfectly secure.

Try that with an iPhone.

[Curtman]

Android will win for the same reason the IBM PC won on the desktop. The others suffer from proprietary vendor lock in.

[bootlegga]

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In September the iPhone 5 will launch and once again dominate the market as iPhone 4 a year old is still the best selling and adopted phone on the market.

It will be the best selling phone, but not the best selling platform. Android sales are outpacing Apple.

The Android platform is growing faster than iOS, becoming far more revolutionary than iOS, and the phones that Android is being used on are better than iPhones. With ice cream sandwich and the unification of tablet and phone OS.[/quote]

Yeah, it's almost funny. I expect that by mid-decade what happened to the Mac will happen to the iPhone (it will be bought and used by a percentage of hard core devotees while the majority will use an Android-based phone). That percentage will be bigger than MAc was in the 80s/90s, but it still won't be close to a majority. If I had to guess, I'd put it at a third (as opposed to the 10% or so marketshare that Mac hovered at for years)

You'd think Jobs would have learned from history (Mac versus the PC), but apparently not. That's what you get for using a proprietary system and demanding everyone do things your way or not at all.

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94% of current iPhone owners will purchase another one for their next phone. 67% of current BlackBerry owners just want to get rid of their device and get an iPhone

What's funny here is the state of denial. The BB and Nokia markets are collapsing for exactly those same reasons android fanbois are calling out IOS for. The problem isn't the software, it is how devs and manufactures get paid. With IOS it is one platform, with android it's 5 main ones and several smaller ones all fighting for the same slice of pie. Samsung looks to be the topdog once the dust settles but that is years down the road and the people who pay for the product are clearly making the choice NOW for IOS because the product is supported and has a future. You buy a BB and they may be bought by microsoft by the end of the year, where is your support then? With android fracturing the market they have made the job to make software that much harder.

In the end the whole thing will look a lot like what happened to betamax and VHS.

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bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, it's almost funny. I expect that by mid-decade what happened to the Mac will happen to the iPhone (it will be bought and used by a percentage of hard core devotees while the majority will use an Android-based phone). That percentage will be bigger than MAc was in the 80s/90s, but it still won't be close to a majority. If I had to guess, I'd put it at a third (as opposed to the 10% or so marketshare that Mac hovered at for years)

You'd think Jobs would have learned from history (Mac versus the PC), but apparently not. That's what you get for using a proprietary system and demanding everyone do things your way or not at all.

The thing is Jobs doesn't care about market share because they over charge for their products. You pay like a 20% premium to get a mac over a windows laptop. Same with phones. Why pay 800 dollars for an iPhone? Iphone 4 is 750. Nexus S (a better phone) you can get for 350 from koodo. But fanboys and hipsters buy iPhones.

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94% of current iPhone owners will purchase another one for their next phone. 67% of current BlackBerry owners just want to get rid of their device and get an iPhone

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having only covered 216 smartphone

Nice sample size.

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What's funny here is the state of denial. The BB and Nokia markets are collapsing for exactly those same reasons android fanbois are calling out IOS for. The problem isn't the software, it is how devs and manufactures get paid. With IOS it is one platform, with android it's 5 main ones and several smaller ones all fighting for the same slice of pie. Samsung looks to be the topdog once the dust settles but that is years down the road and the people who pay for the product are clearly making the choice NOW for IOS because the product is supported and has a future. You buy a BB and they may be bought by microsoft by the end of the year, where is your support then? With android fracturing the market they have made the job to make software that much harder.

In the end the whole thing will look a lot like what happened to betamax and VHS.

What are you talking about? How is having several companies using android make it have less support? And have less of a future? That doesn't make any sense. If anything it gives people choice, it lets people go from company to company if one starts failing. People had to buy the iPhone 4 with it's garbage antenna cause there were no alternatives if they wanted it. If the Galaxy S had that problem, they could switch to the HTC EVO or something like that. Not to mention that since one iPhone is released a year, it's almost always beaten hardware wise within a month or two. Case in point will be iPhone 5 and the Nexus prime. Good chance the Nexus prime will be cheaper and have superior hardware and a superior OS because it's not locked down like a prison.

[Curtman]

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With IOS it is one platform, with android it's 5 main ones and several smaller ones all fighting for the same slice of pie. Samsung looks to be the topdog once the dust settles but that is years down the road and the people who pay for the product are clearly making the choice NOW for IOS because the product is supported and has a future. You buy a BB and they may be bought by microsoft by the end of the year, where is your support then? With android fracturing the market they have made the job to make software that much harder.

Fracturing the market? You write an app for the Android API, and it runs on any Android phone. Download the SDK, it lets you emulate any of the phones on your computer, and it gives you a compiler and a full set of documentation for it. From the developer's perspective they write an app for "Android", and it's the phone manufacturer's job to make sure they don't screw it up. What you call fracturing the market is more accurately 'not putting their eggs in one basket'. Competition is a good thing.

[desertdude]

bootlegga bootlegga:

That's what you get for using a proprietary system and demanding everyone do things your way or not at all.

And thats why I hate everything Apple