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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:26 pm
 


weaselways weaselways:
my uncle lived in Ripley On. On his best day he was a barely passable driver however he was getting older & tended to operate a vehicle impaired, mainly because if he wasn't sleeping he was drinking. Thing was in 50 years of driving he never had a ticket or charge against him. As soon as he got into his car on Railroad St. a neighbour would call the OPP in Kincardine and warn them "Jimmy's on the road". He soon would have an escort one squad car .5 mile ahead and another same distance behind. This went on for a couple of years ... so Jimmy being law abiding as he was had to give up driving.


So he was breaking the law with a DUI? and even if it was not a law back then for some reason it still sounds like we are all safer not having this guy on the road, you actually convinced me they should be able to do this to people. If you can't drive reasonably safe then don't drive. Needing a police escort is not reasonably safe.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:10 am
 


There is no fucking law that says they can take your license because someone complained about you. Period.
This is incident #1,645,373 of ONE PETTY BUREAUCRAT overstepping their bounds and the entire Ministry circling their wagons digging up any excuse rather than admit "Sorry. We fucked up and it won't happen again."
How many times have you seen that happen?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:44 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
This is fairly disturbing considering the lack of convictions or a record of pre-existing fines. Sounds like the Nova Scotia DMV's set up it's own quasi-judicial empire identical to the way the human right's tribunals do things.

Maybe that's what he should do. Go to the provincial HRC and complain that his rights are being violated without proper legal process. It'd be a hell of good laugh if he managed to beat one crypto-fascist shadow governmental body with the assistance of another crypto-fascist shadow governmental body. 8)



It says he wasn't convicted in the alleged hit and run.

It says nothing about prior convictions or prior fines.

It doesn't say that the hit-and-run was related to the tailgating incident.

Many of you are assuming that this is some poor guy who pissed off the wrong person in the Ministry and they took his license away.

Wait till all the facts come forward before you throw people under the bus.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:57 am
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
It says he wasn't convicted in the alleged hit and run.

It says nothing about prior convictions or prior fines.

It doesn't say that the hit-and-run was related to the tailgating incident.

Many of you are assuming that this is some poor guy who pissed off the wrong person in the Ministry and they took his license away.

Wait till all the facts come forward before you throw people under the bus.


You've got it backwards, mate. The one who was thrown under the proverbial bus here is the driver who--it seems--lost his licence without due process (such as, for instance, the opportunity to defend himself).

You're right--I'd like to see further facts. But if indeed he lost his licence due to a complaint without the opportunity to mount a defence, then that's not right. It's got nothing to do with driving being a right or a privilege; it has to do with a potentially unreasonable and arbitrary exercise of power by government.

There's not much to go on in this story however.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:16 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:

You've got it backwards, mate. The one who was thrown under the proverbial bus here is the driver who--it seems--lost his licence without due process (such as, for instance, the opportunity to defend himself).


You don't agree that sitting before a panel and stating your case and being denied isn't due process?

Again, the article is kinda sparse when it comes to details, but it does appear that he had a chance to appeal the decision and present his case and he was denied.

Do you honestly think that the Ministry of Transportation would recommend that the guy get a psychiatric report, take a defensive driving course and do a full driver's re-examination because one single person complained?

You know there's a LOT more to this story we don't know. Tons!


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