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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:34 pm
 


Well, there's that but the reason I brought up the "tugging the Thompson" excuse was because was it was from the 19th-early 20th century when people were more concerned about moral health. Apparently W.K. Kellogg was a proponent of it because he was worried when young men were doing when they looked at pictures of women exposing their shins. :P


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:43 pm
 


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Well, there's that but the reason I brought up the "tugging the Thompson" excuse was because was it was from the 19th-early 20th century when people were more concerned about moral health. Apparently W.K. Kellogg was a proponent of it because he was worried when young men were doing when they looked at pictures of women exposing their shins. :P

Well, the Muslims found the perfect solution for that. AND circumcision, AND the burqa :twisted:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:34 pm
 


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It prevents infection and the secondary effect is that it looks 100x better than the "uncut" look.

1) No it doesn't if you clean it. You telling me a cut man doesn't need to clean his junk being exposed 24/7 in his sweaty underwear and urinating? Riiiiight.

2) Being a male, why do you care what it looks like? Interesting. Really? It looks better? You can't pull back the skin and make it look like you?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:40 pm
 


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Are you asking for a show of hands? :lol: Actually the stated reason was more about hygiene, and studies at the time showed that removing the foreskin lowered the risk for certain cancers of the penis.

Good thing AIDS didn't kick in until the 80's...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:58 pm
 


dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
The "ban circumcision" thing has been going around for quite some time now. It's really stupid in mho. If you've ever seen the pain a guy goes through if it has to be done later on in life it would for sure make you a firm believer in doing when they're babies.

The State has no business in the underwear of the nation.

Besides, I like the Darth Vader helmet look as opposed to the turtleneck thing.


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David Reimer (August 22, 1965 – May 4, 2004) was a Canadian man who was born as a healthy male, but was sexually reassigned and raised as female after his penis was accidentally destroyed during circumcision.[1] Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful, and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. Academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimer never identified as female, and that he began living as male at age 15. Reimer later went public with his story to discourage similar medical practices. Eventually he committed suicide, due to suffering years of severe depression, financial instability and a dissolving marriage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

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One study was conducted that followed circumcised boys beyond the immediate post-operative period. It concluded that complications occurred at an alarming rate of 55%. [Patel]

“Some children end up with adhesions and/or skin bridges which can impede hygiene and actually precipitate infections.” [Morgan] The most common complication is the removal of either too much or too little skin. [Williams] This may not become apparent until years later. Many circumcised adults complain that too much skin was removed. This can result in painful erections and bowing or curvature of the penis. Other common results not always noticed until later include extensive scarring, skin tags, and bleeding of the circumcision scar. Details & photos showing different types of damage (not usually apparent until adulthood)

Many things can go wrong during a circumcision including hemorrhage, infections and damage to the penis. People tend to believe that the circumcised penis is less prone to problems. However, circumcised babies experience substantially more problems than the baby left intact.

The glans is no longer protected by it's jacket -- the foreskin. The raw wound is exposed to fecal material and ammonia in urine. “Infection occurs after circumcision in up to 10% of patients.” [Williams] Repeated infections can cause a narrowing of the urinary opening (meatal stenosis). This may require surgical correction with the attendant risks yet again.

A condition referred to as a trapped penis can occur as a result of circumcision. This may be the same thing as what is called a 'concealed penis' where the "the penile shaft, following circumcision, retreats into the surrounding skin and fatty area and cannot be seen." [Circumcision Information Resource Pages Library]. Read The Inconspicuous Penis for more information. There is a rare penile deformity known as buried penis. If an infant with this condition is circumcised, the procedure could worsen the condition. Search the term "buried penis" at the CIRP Resource Search Engine for more information.


http://www.mothersagainstcirc.org/botch.htm


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:10 pm
 


dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

The State has no business in the underwear of the nation.
:lol: :lol: +1


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:16 pm
 


dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

What's wrong with giving a baby a circumcision? Does it somehow emotionally scar the kid for life? Anyone here who can remember being circumcised please raise your hand.

Getting it done later in life is really not a great option. It's a personal choice thing for families and should stay that way.

I heard some idiot on the radio a while back moaning that being circumcised is to a man what having a breast removed is to a woman. That was the last time I had any time or respect for the anti circumcision idiots.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:18 pm
 


They say that a male looses 2/3 of pleasure from the foreskin when it's removed. I wish I had a choice to decided whether I wanted to loose those 2/3s or not.

EDIT: Thanks Lemmy :lol:


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coaster_dot coaster_dot:
They say that a male looses 2/3 of pleasure from the foreskin when it's removed. I wish I had a choice to decided whether I wanted to loose those 2/3s or not.

And that is the whole idea. Choice.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:20 pm
 


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They say that a male looses 2/3 of pleasure from the foreskin when it's removed. I wish I had a choice to decided whether I wanted to loose those 2/3s or not.

You're confusing the words "lose" and "loose". You don't want to "lose" pleasure, but you want to "loosen" as much as you can.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:21 pm
 


You know, maybe that's why this country has such a problem with marriages. Men aren't feeling fully satisfied, so they blame there spouse and find someone else.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:22 pm
 


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They say that a male looses 2/3 of pleasure from the foreskin when it's removed. I wish I had a choice to decided whether I wanted to loose those 2/3s or not.

"They" being the uncircumcised heathens.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:32 pm
 


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coaster_dot coaster_dot:
They say that a male looses 2/3 of pleasure from the foreskin when it's removed. I wish I had a choice to decided whether I wanted to loose those 2/3s or not.

"They" being the uncircumcised heathens.
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Or "they" being the scientists or researchers.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:23 pm
 


How the hell would they measure qualitative experiences to know this? it's all subjective.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:57 pm
 


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How the hell would they measure qualitative experiences to know this? it's all subjective.

Exactly.
(Visions of scientists in their lab coats, on their knees..... )


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