[herbie]

Oh they all kill over and over again. Even the doddering old farts that beat you to death with their walkers when they're released.
Shit, I'm almost an official old fart and I was a little kid when they abolished it. STFU and evolve already.

[Public_Domain]

[Thanos]

I'm glad it's abolished but I sure have these moments where I'd like to see exceptions made for scum like Olson and Bernardo, and for practically every pedophile that they catch. Unfortunately, during the liberal period when it was abolished, the system as a whole was watered down with too much 'prisoner's rights' nonsense, including having 'life in prison' watered down into being basically meaningless. If this hadn't happened then support for capital punishment would probably be a fraction of what it is right now. Until the soft ride for criminals ends altogether, there will always be huge support for the death penalty.

The side benefit of abolition was that we don't have to worry at all about executing innocent people who were wrongly incarcerated. Out of everything horribly wrong that a government can do killing an innocent prisoner is absolutely, and without any exception, the very worst thing that could ever happen. And damn those callous souls forever who play with this like it's some simple 'gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette' game. People like that are totally disgusting.

[westmanguy]

I'm fine with the abolishment of the death penalty had we established REAL life sentences. Not this bullshit of life....with chance of parole in 25 years. The faint hope clause should be abolished and for severe crimes people should get real LIFE sentences.

I think that's the real driving force behind why so many in our society want the death penalty back. We don't see any real justice being dealt the other way. If the gov't were too establish real life sentences for these murderers then I think support for the reinstatement of capital punishment would deplete.

People support it because they are dismayed by what they see as a lack of justice in our society.

[ShepherdsDog]

life has to be do not pass go, unless you are in a pine box. Prisons should also be more realistic in how they operate. They should grow their own food and if things get tight...well rationing has to come into play. There are quite a few hard working, law-abiding folks in Canada who have to tighten their belts when food isn't plentiful, just as many do without squash courts, riding stables and all sorts of perks that some prisons have.

Those who are in for life can earn privileges to make their incarceration less unpleasant. Easier work assignments and some things that we take forgranted such as TV time, outdoor work(prisons should supply most of their own vegetables and supplement their fruit. Prison farms should also be created to supply eggs, meat and dairy), library time, canteen privileges are things that need to be earned. Implement some of these measures, eliminate a big chunk of bureaucracy and you'll likely find that the cost of incarceration drops dramatically.

[PostFactum]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

life has to be do not pass go, unless you are in a pine box. Prisons should also be more realistic in how they operate. They should grow their own food and if things get tight...well rationing has to come into play. There are quite a few hard working, law-abiding folks in Canada who have to tighten their belts when food isn't plentiful, just as many do without squash courts, riding stables and all sorts of perks that some prisons have.

Those who are in for life can earn privileges to make their incarceration less unpleasant. Easier work assignments and some things that we take forgranted such as TV time, outdoor work(prisons should supply most of their own vegetables and supplement their fruit. Prison farms should also be created to supply eggs, meat and dairy), library time, canteen privileges are things that need to be earned. Implement some of these measures, eliminate a big chunk of bureaucracy and you'll likely find that the cost of incarceration drops dramatically.

But the main thing if that prisoners would like to work, if they don't want to we can't do anything.

[ShepherdsDog]

no work.. no privileges..basic food. That's how the world works for those on the other side of prison walls. Bread and water with vitamin and mineral supplements to help maintain good health. It's their life, so they can make it as unpleasant, or as comfortable, within the prison walls, restrictions and rules, as they want. I've only advocated death for murderers, rapists or kiddy diddlers.

[PostFactum]

Deth penalty it's back step in middle ages or ideal development of criminal law. Nowadays, there is no country that has ideal criminological system, for society it's a kind of a risk, providing death penalty.

[Public_Domain]

[PostFactum]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

I was going to say that we should privatize the prisons as a joke, but then I remembered things like this and it wasn't so funny any more...

Maybe in your "communism ideology" prison as the worsest place should be privatize)))

[Public_Domain]

[andyt]

westmanguy westmanguy:

I'm fine with the abolishment of the death penalty had we established REAL life sentences. Not this bullshit of life....with chance of parole in 25 years. The faint hope clause should be abolished and for severe crimes people should get real LIFE sentences.

You don't think Bernardo or Olsen will spend the rest of their lives in jail. Olsen likes to thumb his nose and apply for parole, but he's not going to get it - especially serving what, 12?, consecutive life sentences.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

I don't mind bad people getting their karma, as long
as we make sure we aren't messing with their humanity.

bernardo and olsen are human??

[sandorski]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Since some of people keep harping on how the death penalty won't bring back the victim, here's a solution. How about we ask the families of the deceased if they want the murderer given the death penalty or life in prison?

That way they get to choose their own personalized form of closure.

But with that being said, I'm guessing that the numbers in favor of the death penalty would drop dramatically if the Government changed life sentence to actually mean "Life" with limited or no opportunity for parole.

Justice is more important than Vengeance. The answer is: Go ahead and ask and put it on the Record, however, the Death Penalty will never be carried out regardless.

[andyt]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

I don't mind bad people getting their karma, as long
as we make sure we aren't messing with their humanity.

bernardo and olsen are human??

Are you suggesting they're aliens?