[PublicAnimalNo9]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Really, can you name one country that was under a boot heel dictatorship of some sort that was a paragon of innovation and radical new ideas? Of course not.

Nazi Germany. The V2, the first ballistic missile and forerunner of the space program. Stealth technology AND the flying wing both brought to you by the Ho-229.
During the Nazi era, German scientists and engineers either developed or greatly improved television, jet-propelled aircraft (including the ejection seat), guided missiles, electronic computers, the electron microscope, atomic fission, data-processing technologies, pesticides, and, of course, the world's first industrial murder complexes. The first magnetic tape recording was of a speech by Hitler, and the nerve gases Sarin and Tabun were Nazi inventions.
NVIS is a Nazi Germany invention as well as night vision technology. I could go on but you get the idea

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

History. "Freedom" means nothing when talking about Innovation/Science. I far prefer Freedom over some form of Dictatorship, but it is Myopic and simply dangerous to think that "Freedom" = better/superior Technology/Innovation. Process/Science determines Innovation, not "Freedom".

Yet the fact of the matter is that freedom DOES mean superior technology and innovation. Look at the USSR where innovation was frequently deemed as criticism of the Soviet regime. Alexander Dolzhin, for instance, was beaten and imprisoned for merely stating the specifics of an American ball point pen (the USSR not being able to copy the ball point pen at the time).

Freedom and liberty are utterly intrinsic to new ideas and innovation and are stifled as threats to authority in restrictive regimes.

Really, can you name one country that was under a boot heel dictatorship of some sort that was a paragon of innovation and radical new ideas? Of course not.

Process and science can become dictatorial and dogmatic as they oppose ideas that challenge the consensus and, again, as was seen in the Soviet Union and China and etc. new scientific ideas were stifled because they challenged the primacy of the state.

The ultimate expression of scientific anti-science was Lysenkoism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Such bullshit can only prosper when freedom of thought is stamped out. That you think freedom and innovation are separate speaks to your profound lack of understanding of how the world really works and it also speaks to your blind love of things of the left.

Negative. One example does not make it a fact. The fact that you equate the 2 things is simple Myopotism. China is not the USSR and lack of Freedom does not necessarily mean stifling of Science.

Sorry.

[saturn_656]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Really, can you name one country that was under a boot heel dictatorship of some sort that was a paragon of innovation and radical new ideas? Of course not.

Nazi Germany. The V2, the first ballistic missile and forerunner of the space program. Stealth technology AND the flying wing both brought to you by the Ho-229.
During the Nazi era, German scientists and engineers either developed or greatly improved television, jet-propelled aircraft (including the ejection seat), guided missiles, electronic computers, the electron microscope, atomic fission, data-processing technologies, pesticides, and, of course, the world's first industrial murder complexes. The first magnetic tape recording was of a speech by Hitler, and the nerve gases Sarin and Tabun were Nazi inventions.
NVIS is a Nazi Germany invention as well as night vision technology. I could go on but you get the idea

Germans are naturally intelligent people.