[Choban]

$1:

Now I remember the show, it was called Time Warp where they do cool shit and then view it on super slow motion to watch the physics of it. It was on the Discovery Channel.

Saw it and it was cool, though I'd poke a little fun though

[Choban]

$1:

If all Sikhs decided to wear the purely ceremonial dagger, that cannot be removed from its sheath, then there would be no issue, and I wouldn't care.

Well said and agreed.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Choban Choban:

$1:

Now I remember the show, it was called Time Warp where they do cool shit and then view it on super slow motion to watch the physics of it. It was on the Discovery Channel.

Saw it and it was cool, though I'd poke a little fun though

Ahhh ok, lol, I never watched those movies so I had to go surfing to see wtf you were talking about

[Lemmy]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Eh, half true. You might have a sgian dubh that is not sharpened and is carried in a protective sheath, but not all kirpans are, nor are all sgian dubhs. If they were purely ceremonial, and had no real value as weapons, then we wouldn't be hearing about stabbings, would we?

Have we heard about stabbingS or A stabbing? This is the first incident I've heard of where they've been used as a weapon.

commanderkai commanderkai:

And if they cannot be removed, they're not weapons anymore, but rather a part of their warddrobe. You said kirpans aren't weapons, and used its PURELY ceremonial form as proof, when there are still many kirpans who do not have the same protections as those purely ceremonial examples. If I show you an antique gun in a case, it's still a firearm, no matter how protective the case or display is, because once I smash that display, and point it at you, it's a lethal weapon. If somebody, who is not wearing the purely ceremonial kirpan that cannot be removed from its sheath, pulled his kirpan out and pointed it at you, you would really not feel threatened?

If some sikhs want to wear the non-ceremonial form of kirpans, which can easily be used as a weapon, there is an issue here and there is legitimacy to discuss it. If all Sikhs decided to wear the purely ceremonial dagger, that cannot be removed from its sheath, then there would be no issue, and I wouldn't care.

I agree with all those points. Where I think our opinions differ is that you seem to think a lot of Sikhs are wearing something that is more than a ceremonial piece. That's not my understanding, though I concede, there are no doubt some who are carrying a dagger that isn't properly restricted. For that minority, I would support charges for carrying concealed weapons, just as I would expect to be charged if the blade I wear with my Highland Dress were sharpened.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

Ban these weapons. There is no other choice. We can't keep having these minority groups bringing their problems with them. There is no place for 'ceremonial' weapons.

-J.