[EyeBrock]

Bodah Bodah:

I know if you give a cop attitude they throw the book at ya, I would of just held on to the rail.

One time I was cycling down a two lane road I was in the right most lane. A lane to my right appeared for traffic to turn right at the lights. There was no traffic, I signaled that I was turning left, doesn't make sense. But one time I got hit by a car that assumed I was turning right.

I got pulled over by a cop and he told me I should of followed the right lane next time? I told him if I was in a car could I do that ? He said no. I told him as nice as could that I'm sure he knew that cyclist on streets have to follow the same laws as vehicles, he's said ya but your on a bike.

Didn't argue with the idiot, just said ok sir.

Never argue with armed idiots! There are a few within the ranks.

[Bodah]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Bodah Bodah:

I know if you give a cop attitude they throw the book at ya, I would of just held on to the rail.

One time I was cycling down a two lane road I was in the right most lane. A lane to my right appeared for traffic to turn right at the lights. There was no traffic, I signaled that I was turning left, doesn't make sense. But one time I got hit by a car that assumed I was turning right.

I got pulled over by a cop and he told me I should of followed the right lane next time? I told him if I was in a car could I do that ? He said no. I told him as nice as could that I'm sure he knew that cyclist on streets have to follow the same laws as vehicles, he's said ya but your on a bike.

Didn't argue with the idiot, just said ok sir.

Never argue with armed idiots! There are a few within the ranks.

yeah he was a young guy, probably just started.

[mtbr]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Wow, free country eh? Under an NDP government the cops would have helped he lady get up the stairs and find her change.

The NDP would employ people to help people up the escalators and pay them 30 bucks an hour to do so.

[Proculation]

mtbr mtbr:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Wow, free country eh? Under an NDP government the cops would have helped he lady get up the stairs and find her change.

The NDP would employ people to help people up the escalators and pay them 30 bucks an hour to do so.

And if you argue to not be helped, they send you in a gulag in Nunavut

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Yea, ok...

Pop by sometime and break a law or three.

Thin blue line mate. Sorts us from the Third World. The cops are acountable unlike thee.

The thin blue line needs to be trimmed now and then, might be a good idea to start with the clowns who arrested her. Really, this is what cops do during the day? She would have been better off throwing a couple of donuts off the escalator and she could chuckle as they scampered after them

[EyeBrock]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Yea, ok...

Pop by sometime and break a law or three.

Thin blue line mate. Sorts us from the Third World. The cops are acountable unlike thee.

The thin blue line needs to be trimmed now and then, might be a good idea to start with the clowns who arrested her. Really, this is what cops do during the day? She would have been better off throwing a couple of donuts off the escalator and she could chuckle as they scampered after them

Oh yea, go on, throw me a doughnut...

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Yea, ok...

Pop by sometime and break a law or three.

Thin blue line mate. Sorts us from the Third World. The cops are acountable unlike thee.

The thin blue line needs to be trimmed now and then, might be a good idea to start with the clowns who arrested her. Really, this is what cops do during the day? She would have been better off throwing a couple of donuts off the escalator and she could chuckle as they scampered after them

Oh yea, go on, throw me a doughnut...

Why, are you in withdrawal?


Look at it this way , if we ever meet you can arrest me for something important, i don't know perhaps littering for tossing a donut at your feet?

[Guy_Fawkes]

[EyeBrock]

Is that it? Are you actually in the military with that piss poor attitude?

[Zipperfish]

$1:

Although this appears to be a petty arrest, it looks like this chick talked her way, or shouted her way to an arrest and a charge.

I believe in the parlance of the boys in blue, this is what is known as a suspect "escalating" the situation. Ha ha ha.

Sure, she mihgt have failed the attitude test, but it doesn't change the fact that there should be no such law in the place in the first place. The sad thing is that people more and more these days seem more than happy to let government micro-manage every facet of their existence, if it makes them more "safe."

And don't think Laval is unique. I could name a dozen similar laws in my municipality. There's no shortage of politicians looking to impose their views on everyone else by silly bans or enforced behaviour.

[Thanos]

Yeah, but it's more like the bylaws are designed to protect people who might get knocked down by some idiot who falls on them because he wasn't holding the handrail. I know in Calgary we almost had some little kid die a few years when he didn't have a hand on the rail, fell down on the escalator, and his hoodie got caught in the top step. If someone nearby hadn't been on the ball and cut his jacket open with a pocket knife the little guy would have been strangled.

I'll fall on the police side as usual on this one. Personal freedom's terrific until some dope who's exercising his rights to the fullest ends up putting you into the hospital.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, but it's more like the bylaws are designed to protect people who might get knocked down by some idiot who falls on them because he wasn't holding the handrail. I know in Calgary we almost had some little kid die a few years when he didn't have a hand on the rail, fell down on the escalator, and his hoodie got caught in the top step. If someone nearby hadn't been on the ball and cut his jacket open with a pocket knife the little guy would have been strangled.

I'll fall on the police side as usual on this one. Personal freedom's terrific until some dope who's exercising his rights to the fullest ends up putting you into the hospital.

By-laws to protect people? Sure. Shouldn't there be a higher bar though? I mean these bleeding hearts come in to city council meetings with some outrageous new law and start bleating that "If it just saves one life it'll be worth it." Really? That's it? Any transgression of our freedoms is warranted if it "just saves one life." I don't buy it. I'm still old skool "Give me freedom or give me death."

The latest one where I live was no smoking within six meters of a bus stop. Strictly safety of course. I showed up to the council meeting and asked if this was a safety by-law or a behaviour modification by-law. "Safety" I was told ("If it just saves one life..."). So I asked for an amendment to the by-law. Where it said "smoking" I asked that they add or "emitting an equally hazardous substance in any manner." That would make us safer right? It would protect us all not only from the scourge of incidental contact with second had smoke but something, if you can imagine it, even worse!!!

Well, I guess they sensed what I was on to (that being that a diesel bus pukes out more toxins in a minute than a smoker does in a year, and therefore, by law, a bus would no longer be permitted within six meters of a bus stop) and shot me down. I said fine, but please then spare me the little song and dance about your little by-law being about safety. I was accorded piteous looks from all the hand-wringers in the crowd who just want me to be safe. Gutless busybodies.

Anyways, I don't smoke so don't read that into it. I'm just peridocally disgusted without the timid, milquetoast society we've seem to become.

[2Cdo]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, but it's more like the bylaws are designed to protect people who might get knocked down by some idiot who falls on them because he wasn't holding the handrail. I know in Calgary we almost had some little kid die a few years when he didn't have a hand on the rail, fell down on the escalator, and his hoodie got caught in the top step. If someone nearby hadn't been on the ball and cut his jacket open with a pocket knife the little guy would have been strangled.

I'll fall on the police side as usual on this one. Personal freedom's terrific until some dope who's exercising his rights to the fullest ends up putting you into the hospital.

By-laws to protect people? Sure. Shouldn't there be a higher bar though? I mean these bleeding hearts come in to city council meetings with some outrageous new law and start bleating that "If it just saves one life it'll be worth it." Really? That's it? Any transgression of our freedoms is warranted if it "just saves one life." I don't buy it. I'm still old skool "Give me freedom or give me death."

The latest one where I live was no smoking within six meters of a bus stop. Strictly safety of course. I showed up to the council meeting and asked if this was a safety by-law or a behaviour modification by-law. "Safety" I was told ("If it just saves one life..."). So I asked for an amendment to the by-law. Where it said "smoking" I asked that they add or "emitting an equally hazardous substance in any manner." That would make us safer right? It would protect us all not only from the scourge of incidental contact with second had smoke but something, if you can imagine it, even worse!!!

Well, I guess they sensed what I was on to (that being that a diesel bus pukes out more toxins in a minute than a smoker does in a year, and therefore, by law, a bus would no longer be permitted within six meters of a bus stop) and shot me down. I said fine, but please then spare me the little song and dance about your little by-law being about safety. I was accorded piteous looks from all the hand-wringers in the crowd who just want me to be safe. Gutless busybodies.

Anyways, I don't smoke so don't read that into it. I'm just peridocally disgusted without the timid, milquetoast society we've seem to become.

I especially like the part I bolded in your post. I'll take it one further. If it costs billions to implement and it only saves one life, it ain't worth the cost.

It would actually bother me less if they would just admit these laws have nothing to do with public safety but are in fact behaviour modification.

[Zipperfish]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, but it's more like the bylaws are designed to protect people who might get knocked down by some idiot who falls on them because he wasn't holding the handrail. I know in Calgary we almost had some little kid die a few years when he didn't have a hand on the rail, fell down on the escalator, and his hoodie got caught in the top step. If someone nearby hadn't been on the ball and cut his jacket open with a pocket knife the little guy would have been strangled.

I'll fall on the police side as usual on this one. Personal freedom's terrific until some dope who's exercising his rights to the fullest ends up putting you into the hospital.

By-laws to protect people? Sure. Shouldn't there be a higher bar though? I mean these bleeding hearts come in to city council meetings with some outrageous new law and start bleating that "If it just saves one life it'll be worth it." Really? That's it? Any transgression of our freedoms is warranted if it "just saves one life." I don't buy it. I'm still old skool "Give me freedom or give me death."

The latest one where I live was no smoking within six meters of a bus stop. Strictly safety of course. I showed up to the council meeting and asked if this was a safety by-law or a behaviour modification by-law. "Safety" I was told ("If it just saves one life..."). So I asked for an amendment to the by-law. Where it said "smoking" I asked that they add or "emitting an equally hazardous substance in any manner." That would make us safer right? It would protect us all not only from the scourge of incidental contact with second had smoke but something, if you can imagine it, even worse!!!

Well, I guess they sensed what I was on to (that being that a diesel bus pukes out more toxins in a minute than a smoker does in a year, and therefore, by law, a bus would no longer be permitted within six meters of a bus stop) and shot me down. I said fine, but please then spare me the little song and dance about your little by-law being about safety. I was accorded piteous looks from all the hand-wringers in the crowd who just want me to be safe. Gutless busybodies.

Anyways, I don't smoke so don't read that into it. I'm just peridocally disgusted without the timid, milquetoast society we've seem to become.

I especially like the part I bolded in your post. I'll take it one further. If it costs billions to implement and it only saves one life, it ain't worth the cost.

It would actually bother me less if they would just admit these laws have nothing to do with public safety but are in fact behaviour modification.

Well, me and 2CDO agreeing on something. Is that hell I head freezing over.

[Thanos]

I'm sure your correct on some existential definition of liberty but I still disagree to a certain extent. If we roll back things like anti-tobacco laws to preserve your definition of freedom then what's to stop some activist assholes from trying to get rid of anti-drunk driving laws, or making it quasi-legal to sell meth and crack in schoolyards? Behaviour that's suicidal, self-destructive, or harmful to others has to be countered to some degree by existing institutions. You say the anti-smokers are milquetoasts but I'd counter it by saying that I've never encountered a bigger collection of whiners than active smokers who bleat endlessly on-and-on about their "rights" being violated by all the new anti-smoking laws. I tell them I don't want them smoking in my house or car and they look at me like I'm Hitler. I tell them to have fun puking a lung out when they hit sixty years old and they look at me like I just said the Tooth Fairy was real.

Could we agree that they should be obligated to carry their own private health insurance so the rest of us don't end up paying the costs when their pseudo-rebel image goes pear-shaped on them, i.e. the aforementioned barfing up what's left of their lungs?