[Choban]

Donk Donk:

What the real issue here is not sending in the army to shoot people, but who is in control of the reserve, and how the governing body of that reserve makes their money.

They are on the boarder, so it is more than likely a few residence of that reserve cross illegally for one reason or another. Cigarettes and booze smuggling is my thoughts. Nothing that any of us would not be temped to do in their situations.

So what has happened is that the people in charge are close to this issue and have decided to give their people and the rest of Canada a bogus reason for them to protest. If there was no illegal crossing of the border, then they would not have a problem with guns being carried.

In short; a few corrupt folks in power, influencing the rest, to protest an issue that people have been mislead on.

Let's keep the ignorant white man vs. the savage out of it. It's stupid. If corruption and misspending from our leadership on both sides where not so prevalent we would not see so many homeless and impoverished natives.

So the solution is to get the cops and boarder police in to find out who is doing the illegal activity and throw them in jail.

Your solution is not so simple, smuggling off of Mohawk reserves is huge business generating vast $$$, 1 in 3 cigarettes sold in Canada is contraband and comes off of these res's, the smugglers ARE ARMED with alot more than pop guns, I'm talking A-K's Rocket launchers and large caliber automatics, if it was so simple than they would have gone in there already and broken it up. The bands shelter these guys because they flout our laws on principal and they know the opp and whatever Quebec provincial force there is are scared to go onto the res.

[kenmore]

So..the solution is .. we don't do anything, just let them block roads, rail lines and continue illegal activity.. We need to let them know.. there are other ways of dealing with them.. the gov't needs to get tough ..

[Choban]

kenmore kenmore:

So..the solution is .. we don't do anything, just let them block roads, rail lines and continue illegal activity.. We need to let them know.. there are other ways of dealing with them.. the gov't needs to get tough ..

Too late, they should've got tough at Oka, the army was there and it would have been supported by Canadians, now it is too little too late.
I'm all for getting tough, if they block roads send in tanks and push the blockage away.
It will take more than provincial police to stop the smuggling though

[Zipperfish]

Global warming.

[mtbr]

Send a few Quebec Liberals over there.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story ... c0911.html

[EyeBrock]

Wada Wada:

Their complaint is legitimate though. Instead of the "white eyes" asking for permission to do this they just once again feel justified in doing what they wish. Not only perpetually stupid but arrogant besides. Would you feel encroached upon if I stood outside your door with a 9mm popgun, without asking?

Are they not manning the border check-points? All CBSA members at border crossings are being armed. It goes along with increased border security in this time of increased terrorist threats.
It's hardly standing outside sombodies door with a pistol, unless you mean a car door?
The HS guys on the US side have been armed for decades, why not protest at the nearby US border post too?

[Donny_Brasco]

Choban Choban:

kenmore kenmore:

So..the solution is .. we don't do anything, just let them block roads, rail lines and continue illegal activity.. We need to let them know.. there are other ways of dealing with them.. the gov't needs to get tough ..

Too late, they should've got tough at Oka, the army was there and it would have been supported by Canadians, now it is too little too late.

I doubt it.

It is only you fringe groups that advocate killing Natives because they don't want a golf course built over their burial grounds.

The days of the Crown dictating to us First Nations how we are to live is over.

You can insult us all you want here on CKA but the joke is on you. There is not a damn thing you can do about it because we have alot more than just history on our side these days.

When those Mohawks get their backs up it is not too often that they don't get their way.

Go ahead, send in the troops. See how fast the government falls. I double dog dare you.

[EyeBrock]

Donny is right.
The Mowhawks, emboldened by years of weak-willed governments and half-arsed policing, will do exactly what they want.

Nobody will raise a finger to stop them.

[RUEZ]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Go ahead, send in the troops. See how fast the government falls. I double dog dare you.

Ya ok.

[Public_Domain]

[mtbr]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Go ahead, send in the troops. See how fast the government falls. I double dog dare you.

Conservative majority would follow, Quebecers would all vote Conservative

didn't you read Kenmore's posts?

[Choban]

Who said anything about killing natives? Way to put words in our mouth for us, no one here advocates it, do you advocate killing whites Donny?

Like it or not you live in CANADA, being Native and living on the res does not permit you to flout our laws, if the FN are so bloody powerful maybe they should all friggin vote, then at least they'd have ground to stand on when the complain about the government

We all know that when this current issue is over they will all dilligently search for the next reason to block a road or disrupt life for everyone

Your kidding about the troops right, You live in a dream world.

[Public_Domain]

[EyeBrock]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Go ahead, send in the troops. See how fast the government falls. I double dog dare you.

It may surprise you, but an amazing amount of Canadians don't like Native Protesters.

When we call them "terrorists", it's a clue. When they hold unpeaceful protests
that lose Canada millions, we don't feel any obligation to help, we feel an
obligation to forcefully remove.

I am sure many Canadians and bleeding hearts will rush to the side of the terrorists,
but I think I can confidently say that many will be muttering under their breath
"About god damn time."

Right-wingers, left-wingers, we're all Canadian, and we hate Anti-Canadians.

It doesn't matter if an amazing amount of Canadians don't like Native protesters.

Nobody will do anything to deal with them at any level because there has been no leadership shown by the Feds, the Province or the police on these issues for decades.
We are led by spineless politicos more concerned with pandering to small sections of society than doing what's best for all of us, and this is not a new phenomenon.

Why do you think the Tamils thought a dash over to the Gardiner was a good idea? They knew they had more to fear from passing cars than any consequences that their law breaking would bring them from the Toronto police. Arresting brown people, no no, we can’t do that, it would be racist wouldn’t it?

We have allowed all kinds of criminal activity to flourish in Caledonia. Six Nations kids in organised gangs steal hundreds of high end SUV's each year with little consequence.
The illegal demonstrations we have seen were basically ignored and the OPP are impotent to enforce the rule of law in Caledonia.
No cop leader will stick his/her neck out as they won't get any support from the Liberals at Queens Park or the Tories in Ottawa.

Donny is right. The Mohawks will continue to break our laws and block our roads and threaten our citizens and nobody will do anything to stop them.

Nobody.

[Donny_Brasco]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

It may surprise you, but an amazing amount of Canadians don't like Native Protesters.

Actually what surprises me is the amount of support that we as natives get from the Canadians who understand our shared history.

People like you don't surprise or alarm me anymore. Your ethnocentric moral superiority is a figment of your imagination. And there are many of you. But there are many more that have thoughtfully processed Canadian history and embrace the values that were our forefather’s vision.

And they also understand that they cannot do anything about the evils of the past but instead are willing to work to make things right and honour the promises of your forefathers.

And it is extra nice to see the people with your point of view get all upset and rant and rave...it is just so satisfying that you have no control over the situation and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I know that probably works against my cause but I can't help it.

Serenity now, serenity now....