[mtpockets]

Tman1 Tman1:

mtpockets mtpockets:

I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.

So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government.

Strengthen Alberta? LMFAO. Western alienation mean anything to you? Of course not, you're too busy pooping yourself.

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

[mtbr]

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Haven't you heard mtbr? With the $1.5 billion swat the province is already back in 'have not' status. That oughta keep the smugness across Canada at peak levels.

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And you seriously think oil will remain at $46 a barrel? What would Alberta do at that rate?

Alberta will survive, however we will be sending all the NL boys home since we will no longer require their services.

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For the uninformed: Danny Williams is no dummy. He still has a personal 88% approval rating in the province and his party has a 71% approval rating. The people recognize a leader when they see one. If only our spineless leader from the west (Hapless Harper) only had half the intestinal fortitude the country would be in a far better place. That lying snake.

Dummy Williams will never be happy with what he gets from Ottawa. I thought Harper was oil friendly
Remember what the ROC thought of Ralph Klein

[mtbr]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

so why didn't you just keep them at home?

didn't Dummy create thousands of jobs for them?

Not like any of those boys ever send their money home

[RUEZ]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

How is it that we all live in Canada and yet some provinces actually figured out a way to become successful?

[mtpockets]

mtbr mtbr:

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Haven't you heard mtbr? With the $1.5 billion swat the province is already back in 'have not' status. That oughta keep the smugness across Canada at peak levels.

And that's your answer?...figures.

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And you seriously think oil will remain at $46 a barrel? What would Alberta do at that rate?

Alberta will survive, however we will be sending all the NL boys home since we will no longer require their services.

You wanna hope oil starts to rise again soon or Alberta will soon lose it's nice little nest egg. Lucky for me this NL boy doesn't rely on oil to survive. And like a lot of my comrades, we know how to make do when times are tough.

$1:

For the uninformed: Danny Williams is no dummy. He still has a personal 88% approval rating in the province and his party has a 71% approval rating. The people recognize a leader when they see one. If only our spineless leader from the west (Hapless Harper) only had half the intestinal fortitude the country would be in a far better place. That lying snake.

Dummy Williams will never be happy with what he gets from Ottawa. I thought Harper was oil friendly
Remember what the ROC thought of Ralph Klein

I also remember Ralph Klein's thoughts on the rest of Canada...especially the 'eastern bums and creeps'. Freakin' drunk.

[mtpockets]

mtbr mtbr:

mtpockets mtpockets:

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

so why didn't you just keep them at home?

didn't Dummy create thousands of jobs for them?

Not like any of those boys ever send their money home

Force people into poverty and what choice do they have. Of course they're going to head off to better prospects.

Williams is doing his best to create wealth in NL but he's stymied at every turn by one of your boys...Harper. The sooner this man is out of office the better.

Well you don't expect us to keep it here in Alberts do ya? Thanks for the shekels by the way.

[RUEZ]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Force people into poverty and what choice do they have. Of course they're going to head off to better prospects.

Williams is doing his best to create wealth in NL but he's stymied at every turn by one of your boys...Harper. The sooner this man is out of office the better.

Well you don't expect us to keep it here in Alberts do ya? Thanks for the shekels by the way.

Enlighten us. Tell us how your people have been forced into poverty. Certainly that didn't begin just three years ago when Harper won the election?

[mtpockets]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mtpockets mtpockets:

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

How is it that we all live in Canada and yet some provinces actually figured out a way to become successful?

Ah, you've touched on the great Canadian dilemma haven't you. It helps when you have the federal government on your side. Take for example the recent developments with Abitibi in NL. They shut down the mill in Grand Falls and thought they could maintain the water and timber rights on the island. Williams took matters into his own hands and showed them a taste of reality. Did Harper stand up for NL? Of course not. It's not in his best interest. But let some multi-national try to upset the oil industry in Alberta and watch the snake come slithering forward.

Yeah, we want this man representing us on the world stage when it comes time to negotiate trade issues. Even if we stay away from the negotiations and get nothing we'll still be farther ahead than if we let him sell us down the river.

[mtpockets]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mtpockets mtpockets:

Force people into poverty and what choice do they have. Of course they're going to head off to better prospects.

Williams is doing his best to create wealth in NL but he's stymied at every turn by one of your boys...Harper. The sooner this man is out of office the better.

Well you don't expect us to keep it here in Alberts do ya? Thanks for the shekels by the way.

Enlighten us. Tell us how your people have been forced into poverty. Certainly that didn't begin just three years ago when Harper won the election?

Harper is just another in a long line of Canadian PM's who use the east coast as a source of revenue to fill the coffers of central and western Canada. This rape and pillage mentality has been going on for decades. Examples? Churchill Falls, the fishery, our people who are forced to migrate in large numbers, nickel from Voisey's Bay to Sudbury and Thompson, reneging on the Atlantic Accord agreement, on and on and on.

[RUEZ]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Ah, you've touched on the great Canadian dilemma haven't you. It helps when you have the federal government on your side. Take for example the recent developments with Abitibi in NL. They shut down the mill in Grand Falls and thought they could maintain the water and timber rights on the island. Williams took matters into his own hands and showed them a taste of reality. Did Harper stand up for NL? Of course not. It's not in his best interest. But let some multi-national try to upset the oil industry in Alberta and watch the snake come slithering forward.

Yeah, we want this man representing us on the world stage when it comes time to negotiate trade issues. Even if we stay away from the negotiations and get nothing we'll still be farther ahead than if we let him sell us down the river.

Why would Harper speak up about internal provincial trade matters? IN BC multinational forest companies have shut down sawmills while retaining their timber cutting rights. People don't like it but we certainly don't cry when Harper doesn't come running in to speak up on our behalf. You guys in Newfoundland need to start taking responsibility for your own economy. It seems quite petty to take property away from a company because it shut down one aspect of it's business. I also happen to remember that the workers at that sawmill voted to not make any concessions to keep their jobs. They'd rather be on welfare then take a paycut. I hope you all aren't like that.

[RUEZ]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Harper is just another in a long line of Canadian PM's who use the east coast as a source of revenue to fill the coffers of central and western Canada. This rape and pillage mentality has been going on for decades. Examples? Churchill Falls, the fishery, our people who are forced to migrate in large numbers, nickel from Voisey's Bay to Sudbury and Thompson, reneging on the Atlantic Accord agreement, on and on and on.

Are you for real? You're province has been a drain since it joined Canada. What coffers have you filled? I think there is something in the water over there that's making a lot of you goofy.

[mtpockets]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mtpockets mtpockets:

Harper is just another in a long line of Canadian PM's who use the east coast as a source of revenue to fill the coffers of central and western Canada. This rape and pillage mentality has been going on for decades. Examples? Churchill Falls, the fishery, our people who are forced to migrate in large numbers, nickel from Voisey's Bay to Sudbury and Thompson, reneging on the Atlantic Accord agreement, on and on and on.

Are you for real? You're province has been a drain since it joined Canada. What coffers have you filled? I think there is something in the water over there that's making a lot of you goofy.

Keep telling yourself that, man. You have swallowed the rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Try researching once in a while and stop listening to your drinking buddies.

I'll take Churchill Falls and expand this one example for you so you can see the bigger picture.

Churchill Falls.  Premier Smallwood entered into a bad deal but by the time he realized his mistake the federal government and the province of Quebec had railroaded him into taking the deal.  I believe the words to Joey at the time was something to the effect of "hey man take the deal or risk having Quebec separate from the country because if this deal goes sour it will be on your head".  And this was from the prime minister of the day. Can you imagine the pressure on Smallwood?  The result is a 90 year contract that gives Quebec somewhere in the neighborhood of $800 million a year while Newfoundland and Labrador gets a stippence of $80 million for a resource that belongs to the province!  To put it bluntly, we are subsidizing Quebec, a form of financial assistance if you will. And today the feds (and Quebec) still won't allow a corridor through the province of Quebec so Newfoundland and Labrador can develop the Lower Churchill and sell their power to the eastern states.  That's real comraderie for you.  What do you figure is a fair deal? Williams is a man of his word. The Lower Churchill will be developed and the province will sell the power. We found a circuitous route.

[Tman1]

mtpockets mtpockets:

Tman1 Tman1:

mtpockets mtpockets:

I once wanted a stronger Canada too, until I woke up and realized it's a pipe dream that will never happen. Oh, it might have happened if the system worked according to plan. But a central government that serves to strengthen areas like Ontario and Alberta while Atlantic Canada scrambles to gather the few scraps that trickle down from above...well you can keep that Canada. It does nothing to build cohesion, it does nothing to foster strength and stability. It does, however, serve to divide and create discension. A quick browse through CKA bears that out completely.

So now I'm fighting for a better future for my home province. A future that doesn't rely on the whims and political manoeverings of a federal government.

Strengthen Alberta? LMFAO. Western alienation mean anything to you? Of course not, you're too busy pooping yourself.

Of course we're strengthening your economy...by sending 10's of thousands of our workforce to your province to fill your job market. It pays to keep Atlantic Canada in the poorhouse.

Nope, you said a 'central government' that serves to strengthen ALberta and Ontario which if you took your head out your ass, you'll note both provinces are crap, like the rest of the country and the world. Tens of thousands? THat's quite a sum, especially coming from a population like Newfie land. If ALberta provided jobs and Newfie land didn't, tough, blame your premier not the government.

[Tman1]

mtpockets mtpockets:

I also remember Ralph Klein's thoughts on the rest of Canada...especially the 'eastern bums and creeps'. Freakin' drunk.[/color]

He talking to you then? Maybe being drunk speaks the truths this country likes to forget. Better than a deranged lunatic with delusions of grandeur with popular support.

[mtpockets]

Williams is doing just fine my combative friend. He has struck a sweet deal with Hebron, he is pushing ahead with the Lower Churchill development and he has evoked a sense of cohesion among the populace like no premier before him, in any province. Combine that with the Hydromet smelter in Long Harbor, the growing aquaculture industry, the existing offshore oilfield development, the rich mineral industry and Newfoundland and Labrador will do just fine, thank you very much. You, on the other hand can have another beer.