[SprCForr]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Wait until they fire the C-6 now thats a machine gun. The C-9 is just an automatic C-7.

For the curious:

C6 firing from the bipod.



Note the muzzle movement. That's what makes this thing a killer.

[Bacardi4206]

I love the C6, it looks and sounds great and is a real killer. However I'd hate to have to drag that thing everywhere. I prefer accuracy and mobility. I'd just pick a assault rifle with a gernade launcher addon. Great for killing terrorists dug in trenches or buildings

[SprCForr]

It isn't that bad, beats the C5 everyway to Sunday.

It's an area weapon, rifle like accuracy isn't it's primary function. In the case of the C6, it's certainly a great side benefit!

[Canadian_Mind]

It's almost too accurate though. Beating zone is retardedly small less than 300 meters from your target.

[SprCForr]

In our case the beaten zone issue wasn't on the radar screen until after the adults started checking the targets and realized how many rounds were actually hitting.

The transition was sort of humourous on that first range day. It certainly impressed a lot of old Regimental types.

[Bacardi4206]

I am sure it's accurate but it's meant for a support tool. Supressing the enemy so the other soldiers get a chance to take aim and take that accurate shot.

If you're taking fire, I'd rather just be running for cover with a assault rifle that running to cover with that big thing dragging me down.

Accuracy and Mobility is what I desire.

[SprCForr]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

I am sure it's accurate but it's meant for a support tool. Supressing the enemy so the other soldiers get a chance to take aim and take that accurate shot...

That's only part of it.

[Canadian_Mind]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Accuracy and Mobility is what I desire.

In the end accuracy and mobility are determined by the soldier, not his kit. you want to be accurate and mobile, get fit. When you think you are fit, running 16 km in an hour, aim to do it in 45 minutes. Go to the range, practice your marksmanship skills. When you put 5 rounds through a single bullet hole, do it ten times in a row, etc.

You can have the lightest, most accurate weapon in the world. But if you are even just half as fit as the enemy soldier, he will own your ass with superior firepower afforded by a much larger weapon, such as a C-6.

Somewhat related: I'm a fan of Iron sights, hence why I've always perferred the C7A1s, C8s, C-6s, and M-203s. But... The new Eotech sights are fucking awesome! Same lack of visual interference when shooting with both eyes open, AND the dot stays on the target no matter where your head is!

[Thanos]

Does the CF have anything in the miin-gun category or is that sort of stuff strictly American?

[Canadian_Mind]

Thanos Thanos:

Does the CF have anything in the miin-gun category or is that sort of stuff strictly American?

Think we have that style of chaingun in the Chalks in Afghanistan, but they're only 7.62 rounds.

[Bacardi4206]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Accuracy and Mobility is what I desire.

In the end accuracy and mobility are determined by the soldier, not his kit. you want to be accurate and mobile, get fit. When you think you are fit, running 16 km in an hour, aim to do it in 45 minutes. Go to the range, practice your marksmanship skills. When you put 5 rounds through a single bullet hole, do it ten times in a row, etc.

You can have the lightest, most accurate weapon in the world. But if you are even just half as fit as the enemy soldier, he will own your ass with superior firepower afforded by a much larger weapon, such as a C-6.

Somewhat related: I'm a fan of Iron sights, hence why I've always perferred the C7A1s, C8s, C-6s, and M-203s. But... The new Eotech sights are fucking awesome! Same lack of visual interference when shooting with both eyes open, AND the dot stays on the target no matter where your head is!

Accuracy to a point is determined by the soldier but accuracy is limited by the weapon. C6 I would assume to be pretty accurate but as a support gun with that many bullets being pumped out I would assume that it would have a bit of a kick to it and you would have to keep putting your sights on the target. Even with bursts you'd probally have to make sure you're sights are still on the target. I mean it has a mount. You wouldn't need that if you could just carry it around and shoot accuractly like any other weapon.

A lightweight assault rifle is more mobile and can't be fired accuratly in any position or time. The C6 without being mounted would have one hell of a kick to it and would damage accuracy. If I was being shot at and was carrying this heaven gun. I would rather the assault rifle because I wouldn't have as much weight dragging me down and because of it's design I can keep going from cover to cover or run and fire in any position to supress the enemy firing at me if I wanted to. With the C6 I just don't see you doing that unless you were rambo.

You are right though, if I was fit carrying that around probally wouldn't be a problem but I just find that if my ass was on the line that a light weight assault rifle would be easier to move from cover to cover while firing at my enemy that carrying this huge weapon moving from cover to cover and setting it up so I could fire it. That's just my opinion.

[Canadian_Mind]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Accuracy to a point is determined by the soldier but accuracy is limited by the weapon. C6 I would assume to be pretty accurate but as a support gun with that many bullets being pumped out I would assume that it would have a bit of a kick to it and you would have to keep putting your sights on the target. Even with bursts you'd probally have to make sure you're sights are still on the target. I mean it has a mount. You wouldn't need that if you could just carry it around and shoot accuractly like any other weapon.

A lightweight assault rifle is more mobile and can't be fired accuratly in any position or time. The C6 without being mounted would have one hell of a kick to it and would damage accuracy. If I was being shot at and was carrying this heaven gun. I would rather the assault rifle because I wouldn't have as much weight dragging me down and because of it's design I can keep going from cover to cover or run and fire in any position to supress the enemy firing at me if I wanted to. With the C6 I just don't see you doing that unless you were rambo.

You are right though, if I was fit carrying that around probally wouldn't be a problem but I just find that if my ass was on the line that a light weight assault rifle would be easier to move from cover to cover while firing at my enemy that carrying this huge weapon moving from cover to cover and setting it up so I could fire it. That's just my opinion.

While both machineguns have more kick, and more repetative force in the kick, the position you take almost completely negates that. een at my 145 pounds soakig wet, my C-6 went nowhere with me directly behn it, firm grip, etc.

With machineguns you only use the sights once, to align yourself with the target. once firing you watch where your trcers go and adjust accordingly.

As far as accuracy goes, I put around 130-140 rounds out of a 220 round belt into half a meter of exposed tank hull at 700 meters, which is just shy of the maximum "effective" range on a bipod of the thing. Out of those 220 rounds, about 100 of them (counted 20 tracers), were all fired in a row because my instructor was getting pumped over my shooting. Once the bullets were going, it was easy to direct the tracers like water from a garden hose. My barrel was very hot after.

Generally you don't move when carrying a machinegun in a firefight. But I wont to go into detail about tactics on here.

[roger-roger]

You can get iron sights for the A2 CM

[SprCForr]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

C6 I would assume to be pretty accurate but as a support gun with that many bullets being pumped out I would assume that it would have a bit of a kick to it and you would have to keep putting your sights on the target. Even with bursts you'd probally have to make sure you're sights are still on the target. I mean it has a mount. You wouldn't need that if you could just carry it around and shoot accuractly like any other weapon.

That's why I was pointing out the muzzle. There is very little movement given the fact it's being fired from the bipod which is decidely inferior to a tripod mount.

[Canadian_Mind]

And the tripod is inferior to a vehicle mount.