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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:46 pm
 


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The reasons why is, he is a child soldier in need of rehabilitation and removal from his family that put him in that situation, he has been imprisoned without due process which is every Canadians constitutional right, and now he will come back as an angry adult that has endured brainwashing, war, killing, and torture at the hands of both family and captures. He will undoubtedly side with the family that led him into becoming a brainwashed child soldier and be even more hateful against the very thing they hate. This makes him a very scary and dangerous individual if his case is not handled properly in this country. Like it or not he will be coming back. Deprogramming and separation from his family, which IMO is vile to put a child in that situation, needs to be done...if it isnt too late.


Not to mention 6 years of cock-meat sandwiches....let's just let this one go before he's hackin' folks heads off on Greyhounds. I feel REALLY bad for the guy, but I'd rather he not be returned to Canada.


Na muslims wouldn't do that, would they ?

God that was a spoof on Escape from Guantanamo Bay...if you got out of Mommys underwear drawer for long enough you would realize that...
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[huh] I dont see what the greyhound matter has to do with this at all...totally different circumstances. The fact of the matter he is born in Canada and entitled to come back to Canada, regardless of what any of us believe to befitting of him. The question I pose to everyone, in all legal realms, what will we do with him?


I dont want to hear...beheading, execution, torture, life imprisonment...I want to hear realistic resolutions, he will be released into the Canadian population because those other methods DO NOT happen in Canada...in the Judicial system in Canada he has served his time...unless they can try him for treason, which I feel is doubtful due to the fact he was a child soldier.


Did you not read what Shep posted ?

The USA owns his ass.


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Just because he is Canadian does not mean that he must be punished in Canada for crimes on foreign soil. That's just an ignorant comment, assuming that er have extradition agreements with all other countries.


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[huh] I dont see what the greyhound matter has to do with this at all...totally different circumstances. The fact of the matter he is born in Canada and entitled to come back to Canada, regardless of what any of us believe to befitting of him. The question I pose to everyone, in all legal realms, what will we do with him?


I dont want to hear...beheading, execution, torture, life imprisonment...I want to hear realistic resolutions, he will be released into the Canadian population because those other methods DO NOT happen in Canada...in the Judicial system in Canada he has served his time...unless they can try him for treason, which I feel is doubtful due to the fact he was a child soldier.


Did you not read what Shep posted ?

The USA owns his ass.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:54 pm
 


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The fact of the matter he is born in Canada and entitled to come back to Canada


No he isn't. He committed a crime against a foreign national in a foreign country. The laws of the arresting authorities take precedence. As I said before Canadian laws and rights only apply to Canada. Our diplomats can only request that he be turned over to them, while the arresting power has the right to refuse to. If his rights are being violated it is up to the American legal system to prove this and deal with it. canada can only offer advice and make requests.

Had he been arrested by Canadian soldiers, then Canadian Charter of Rights may have been applicable. Had he been captured by members of the Afghan National Army, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.


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TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
[huh] I dont see what the greyhound matter has to do with this at all...totally different circumstances. The fact of the matter he is born in Canada and entitled to come back to Canada, regardless of what any of us believe to befitting of him. The question I pose to everyone, in all legal realms, what will we do with him?


I dont want to hear...beheading, execution, torture, life imprisonment...I want to hear realistic resolutions, he will be released into the Canadian population because those other methods DO NOT happen in Canada...in the Judicial system in Canada he has served his time...unless they can try him for treason, which I feel is doubtful due to the fact he was a child soldier.


Well, the word "entitled" isn't clearly defined yet. We have different practises with different countries. Typically, the USA does not extradite Canadians; Canadians committing crimes in the USA usually serve their sentences in the USA. Presumably, we would have to accept him after his sentence is served. I suppose we could tell him he'd face additional charges if he came back, to scare him away. Hypothetically, what should we do with him? I say fuck him. Child soldier horror story aside, anyone that'd pick up a weapon and shoot it at another human being deserves what ever shit karma decides to rain down on them.


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Just because he is Canadian does not mean that he must be punished in Canada for crimes on foreign soil. That's just an ignorant comment, assuming that er have extradition agreements with all other countries.

He will be coming back. It is not an ignorant comment, we take everyone back, Canadian citizenship and all remember that.

The point I am trying to make is what will Canada do with him once he is here?....he will be more pissed and siding with his family and on our streets. We all know the system here does not work...and as someone has previously said he has done his time...murderers in Canada get less.


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Keep it up TattoodGirl you are the one that looks like a Moron, Sticking up for a little POS that should have met the business end of a bullet 6 years ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:57 pm
 


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murderers in Canada get less.


That's not really a ringing endorsement of our criminal justice system.


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Hey Moron I am not sticking up for the little shit, I am just stating how it will play down...I guess that is what edumacation gets some. :roll:


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Hey Moron I am not sticking up for the little shit, I am just stating how it will play down...I guess that is what edumacation gets some. :roll:


He'll be a long time in some jail cell in the USA, Trust me he won't be back unless it's in a coffin.


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murderers in Canada get less.


That's not really a ringing endorsement of our criminal justice system.

I have never once stood tall for the Judicial system in this country...they fail the victims on most occasions. In this instance I am playing what I see will play out...its inevitable...but no one has a definitive answer on what to do with someone like this that is realistic. Other than decapitate, execute, imprison for life...the reality this guy will be out on the street and more pissed off.


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TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
I have never once stood tall for the Judicial system in this country...they fail the victims on most occasions. In this instance I am playing what I see will play out...its inevitable...but no one has a definitive answer on what to do with someone like this that is realistic. Other than decapitate, execute, imprison for life...the reality this guy will be out on the street and more pissed off.


Maybe. More likely is he'll get a book deal, and even though he's guilty, just like Guy Paul Morin and Susan Nelles, he'll make a fortune doing signings and public speaking. He won't want to blow himself up at Yonge-Dundas because being a "wrongfully accused", even if you were guilty, is very lucrative.


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I don't see him as being out on the street any time soon. Even after Obama issues his executive order to close Guantanamo, it will take awhile to do that. Then the individuals incarcerated there will be transferred to a federal facility in the US and then the legal proceedings will begin in the courts which will take quite a while to process.

During this time, the suspects will be kept locked up. With the evidence the American authorities have, you can bet that Omar will be serving a longer sentence in an American penitentiary.


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He stil swears Loyalty to Al-Queda just give him a fair trail in a US Court of law and start having him serve his time.

Hopefully he can be rehabilitated but either way he has to face the music.


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