[HyperionTheEvil]

fifeboy fifeboy:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Well, that is true. The best way to get the attention of the white man is to stand between him and his money.

Interesting little bit of racism there Donny.

However, it is a true statement!

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

[RUEZ]

fifeboy fifeboy:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Well, that is true. The best way to get the attention of the white man is to stand between him and his money.

Interesting little bit of racism there Donny.

However, it is a true statement!

Prove it. Otherwise it's just racism.

[ManifestDestiny]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

oh for god sakes, anything for a buck eh. First Nation's get your head out of your ass

Did you even read the article? It does not say anything about money. In fact all it says is that the First Nations have the right to be consulted prior to any work taking place on lands that are/were their original territory.

That is very similar to your RM, city council or other government body consulting with you at a public meeting on the possibility of work or construction near where you live.

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[HyperionTheEvil]

fifeboy fifeboy:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Well, that is true. The best way to get the attention of the white man is to stand between him and his money.

Interesting little bit of racism there Donny.

However, it is a true statement!

That all being said haveing looked at your post, i am gratifed to see that he referred to it as "His" money, thereby confirming that the money they seek, is neither entitled or derserved


Some advice for indian people out there make. sure you follow all of the easy steps that follow

1. Pick up paper
2. looks through want ads
3. get interview
4. get job
5. earn your own money

[ManifestDestiny]

fifeboy fifeboy:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

Well, that is true. The best way to get the attention of the white man is to stand between him and his money.

Interesting little bit of racism there Donny.

However, it is a true statement!

so I guess its ok to be racist against white people!

ok hows this

the best way to get the attention of an indian is get in betwwen him and his whiskey!

[fifeboy]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

No you haven't! You just assume that.

[fifeboy]

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:

No problem offer them some whiskey that should close the deal

Manifest Destiny typing post:

[HyperionTheEvil]

fifeboy fifeboy:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

No you haven't! You just assume that.

Beg your pardon, they want money without the fact that they're done anything that indicates that they have earned that money other than making specious claims of 'ownership'. Ergo, I can claim the sidewalk outside my frontdoor is actually mine by claiming that a according to my verbal history that at one point i owned that land and am derserving of a handout to allow the city use of it.

[Yogi]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

fifeboy fifeboy:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

No you haven't! You just assume that.

Beg your pardon, they want money without the fact that they're done anything that indicates that they have earned that money other than making specious claims of 'ownership'. Ergo, I can claim the sidewalk outside my frontdoor is actually mine by claiming that a according to my verbal history that at one point i owned that land and am derserving of a handout to allow the city use of it.

Why don't you Quote the passages in THIS ARTICLE ( which is what THIS discussion is about), that will PROVE that the Natives are CLAIMING THE LAND IN QUESTION as their own, or that they are SEEKING MONEY!

[fifeboy]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

fifeboy fifeboy:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

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We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

No you haven't! You just assume that.

Beg your pardon, they want money without the fact that they're done anything that indicates that they have earned that money other than making specious claims of 'ownership'. Ergo, I can claim the sidewalk outside my frontdoor tactually mine by claiming that a according to my verbal history that at one point i owned that land and am derserving of a handout to allow the city use of it.

It all has to do with treaties and the concept of Aboriginal rights. This will not be decided by you, but by the Courts. Comments like you made just make for poor relations with a significant, and growing part of our population.

[Donny_Brasco]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Spare us the 'consulting' line, it's just another money grab from people who simply don't understand the modern world and the 21st century

Well, that is true. The best way to get the attention of the white man is to stand between him and his money.

You are absolutely right, the 21st century involves looking out for #1 and getting whatever you can whenever you can. That is the way of the white people and we are happy to participate. Sounds like you'd rather set different rules for us.

So the original articel is about money

Once again you have left your credibility at the door. And the way of 'white' people is to earn their money by actualy working for it. How sad indians after decades still havent learned that

Really? Then maybe if you are so honourable you should pay for the land you're living on like your forefathers promised. And maybe follow your own laws and consult with the Aboriginal people who have lived on the land that you have claimed and are still obligated to pay for.

There is nothing illegal or immoral about us asking you to honour the promises you’ve made or to follow your own laws.

It is shameful that you neglect your own laws and own promises when it comes to First Nation people. That is lack of credibility, and your reputation is disgraceful and appalling.

[Donny_Brasco]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Yogi Yogi:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

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You're working from a incorrect assumption

Which Is ?

That Canadians owe anything to indians in the first place. Your presumption is that they 'own' the land they are complaning about. The biggest problem that indians have is not that they are being hard done by, but by a sense of entitlement that they have made for themselves a cutlture out expecting handouts

The only ones debating about the original ownership of the land is you and your pack of ignoramuses. The SCC and the Constitution uphold our status and connection to the land that you live on and recognize our rights as the original inhabitants.
You have the duty to consult and it is no different than Yogi’s post above.
There is no assumption taking place here. Obey your own laws, that is all I am saying.

[Donny_Brasco]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

If you are living on land that does not belong to you then you and you refuse to pay for it, refuse to recognize that ownership and refuse to uphold the obligations you have to the owners of that land...

THEN YOU ARE GETTING A HUGE HANDOUT.

How about paying the Natives fair market value for all the and in Canada and then we'll shut up.

[Donny_Brasco]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

That all being said haveing looked at your post, i am gratifed to see that he referred to it as "His" money, thereby confirming that the money they seek, is neither entitled or derserved


Some advice for indian people out there make. sure you follow all of the easy steps that follow

1. Pick up paper
2. looks through want ads
3. get interview
4. get job
5. earn your own money

Fair enough. and you and for those of you who don't want to pay the Indians for the land that is theirs fair and square - pack your bags, call Air Canada and get a flight back to whatever hole you and/or your predecessors crawled out of.
I’ll keep helping my folks get off their asses and get jobs...you just get the fuck out lol.

[Donny_Brasco]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

fifeboy fifeboy:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

We've already established that indians want handouts, donny just comes in here once an while and like to put a spin out

No you haven't! You just assume that.

Beg your pardon, they want money without the fact that they're done anything that indicates that they have earned that money other than making specious claims of 'ownership'. Ergo, I can claim the sidewalk outside my frontdoor is actually mine by claiming that a according to my verbal history that at one point i owned that land and am derserving of a handout to allow the city use of it.

Actually you will note that companies often pay other companies and other individuals "inconvenience fees" to build or develop nearby their properties.

So how come when Indians are worried their livelihoods, or water, or air quality is going to be disturbed that its "handouts". Seems like they have some obvious concerns.