[DerbyX]

EI premiums are taken directly taxes owed. If the govt wasn't legally entitled to use them for general revenue (which they are) then those premiums were not tax deductable and either way the govt gets the level of funding.

The Liberals did great.

[ziggy]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EI premiums are taken directly taxes owed. If the govt wasn't legally entitled to use them for general revenue (which they are) then those premiums were not tax deductable and either way the govt gets the level of funding.

The Liberals did great.

They broke the law and STOLE insurance money to those that paid into it,it's an insurance fund,not a money trough for the libs to dip into.But as far as morals go when it comes to the libs and tax dollars we all know why guys like Derby are so blindly partisan that they can say the libs did nothing wrong with a straight face.

Ya,they did great in the theft department untill they got caught.

[hwacker]

ziggy ziggy:

DerbyX DerbyX:

EI premiums are taken directly taxes owed. If the govt wasn't legally entitled to use them for general revenue (which they are) then those premiums were not tax deductable and either way the govt gets the level of funding.

The Liberals did great.

They broke the law and STOLE insurance money to those that paid into it,it's an insurance fund,not a money trough for the libs to dip into.But as far as morals go when it comes to the libs and tax dollars we all know why guys like Derby are so blindly partisan that they can say the libs did nothing wrong with a straight face.

Ya,they did great in the theft department untill they got caught.

Don't waste bandwidth over DX, he's drunk so much koolaid it's put him into a zombie like coma.

[ziggy]

I dont have time anyways,have to go to a course I need to work allmost anywhere in Alberta,most will be getting it paid by EI but I have to pay my own way.

[DerbyX]

ziggy ziggy:

DerbyX DerbyX:

EI premiums are taken directly taxes owed. If the govt wasn't legally entitled to use them for general revenue (which they are) then those premiums were not tax deductable and either way the govt gets the level of funding.

The Liberals did great.

They broke the law and STOLE insurance money to those that paid into it,it's an insurance fund,not a money trough for the libs to dip into.But as far as morals go when it comes to the libs and tax dollars we all know why guys like Derby are so blindly partisan that they can say the libs did nothing wrong with a straight face.

Ya,they did great in the theft department untill they got caught.

No. They didn't properly consult with parliment on 3 of 7 years between 96 and 05.

I might just as easily say you are blindly partisan since you won't acknowledge that Harper did exactly the same thing.

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/2007/03/1 ... i-surplus/

$1:

National Union of Public and General Employees
March 9, 2007

Ottawa - A criminal complaint has been filed against Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his Conservative cabinet for misusing the now-staggering $51-billion surplus in Canada’s national Employment Insurance (EI) fund.

The surplus, which the Conservatives howled that the Liberals were abusing when they were in office, has mushroomed by $7 billion since 2004 and continues to grow at a spectacular rate - fed by ongoing worker contributions and interest gains.

Yet the Tories are behaving the same as the Liberals behaved, putting the surplus into general revenue where it can be used for anything and not specifically for the benefit of unemployed workers as the law requires.

The RCMP has confirmed that the complaint was lodged March 7 by a lawyer representing the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU).

This is exactly what we have been saying for a long time now. The very same actions that are wrong under the Liberals are not only condoned under the CPC but are supported.

"But the Liberals did it ......." That seems to be the only response we ever hear whenever the CPC does anything wrong.

[uwish]

same can be said for the Liberals. They blame the CPC for the global economic meltdown, they blame the CPC for 'inaction' they blame the CPC for no senate reform when it is the liberal party stopping it.

cooperation is a two way street, if you are bitching that he hasn't gutted the registry or made senate reform wonder why?

the socialist and the bloc won't support gutting the registry and the liberals can vote against the monster they created!

grow up

[Brenda]

Those judges...

Where they economists who know what they are talking about, or just people like you and me?

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EI premiums are taken directly taxes owed. If the govt wasn't legally entitled to use them for general revenue (which they are) then those premiums were not tax deductable and either way the govt gets the level of funding.

The Liberals did great.

The supreme court seems to differ with you

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/2007/03/1 ... i-surplus/

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/about/

“…lively, irreverent, informative.” -Noam Chomsky


nice unbiased source.....not

[HyperionTheEvil]

lily lily:

ziggy ziggy:

I dont have time anyways,have to go to a course I need to work allmost anywhere in Alberta,most will be getting it paid by EI but I have to pay my own way.

EI paid for a whole whack of courses for you not so long ago.

no one is complaining the EI shold be there, there pointing out that the Liberals broke the law and the Supreme court said so, and yet some liberals are still defending them

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

DerbyX DerbyX:

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/2007/03/1 ... i-surplus/

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/about/

“…lively, irreverent, informative.” -Noam Chomsky


nice unbiased source.....not

Truth hurts doesn't it!

See. When their guy gets caught doing what they scream about the simply resort to the patented con D3S approach.

Dodge, Deny, Deceive, and Spin.

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

lily lily:

ziggy ziggy:

I dont have time anyways,have to go to a course I need to work allmost anywhere in Alberta,most will be getting it paid by EI but I have to pay my own way.

EI paid for a whole whack of courses for you not so long ago.

no one is complaining the EI shold be there, there pointing out that the Liberals broke the law and the Supreme court said so, and yet some liberals are still defending them

Think again sunshine. I'm defending the use of the EI fund to pay down the debt and use in in general revenue, something the courts found legal.

I didn't know about the condition of informing parliment based on an ancient law about no taxation without representation and don't know why they failed to do so on 3 occasions.

Seems the act was legal as long as they were informing parliment.

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

DerbyX DerbyX:

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/2007/03/1 ... i-surplus/

http://briarpatchmagazine.com/about/

“…lively, irreverent, informative.” -Noam Chomsky


nice unbiased source.....not

Truth hurts doesn't it!

See. When their guy gets caught doing what they scream about the simply resort to the patented con D3S approach.

Dodge, Deny, Deceive, and Spin.

What truth?, a complaint has been filed, it hasn;t gone to trial, much less has the Government been found guilty yet. And yet in the samw breath you excuse the Liberal party you use it to try and condemn the the CPC.


The liberals are guilty of a crime and your blinders keep you defending what they did.

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Think again sunshine. I'm defending the use of the EI fund to pay down the debt and use in in general revenue, something the courts found legal.

I didn't know about the condition of informing parliment based on an ancient law about no taxation without representation and don't know why they failed to do so on 3 occasions.

Seems the act was legal as long as they were informing parliment.

Thye found it illegal and that the liberals broke the law by changing the rates without going through the demiocractic proccess. Which means no debate int he commons and Canaidans were denied their porper opportunity to have thier MP's know of their views.


You having troubles here son, you can spew all the liberal party trash you want. The Supreme Court of Canada ust gave the Liberal Party a huge smackdown by saying what they did was illegal. And you you keep wanting to say they were right to break the law

[DerbyX]

Can you even read?

The "crime" was not informing parliment, an act that at best meant the EI premium rate should have stayed the same instead of being adjusted (down as it were).

The complaint is about using the EI fund in general revenue something Harper was screaming about and yet still did himself.

The use of the EI fund in general revenue was the very core of the complain. The no taxation without representation isn't anythng that was really concerning anybody more then the usage of said money.

You are just such a blind kool-aid drink con hack you can't see that not admit your party is doing exactly (yet again) what it cried foul about when the other party did it.