[DerbyX]

stokes stokes:

The Libs didnt just steal from EI they also stole from the RCMP/ Military/ Gov't workers pension fund about 15 billion worth. Instead of giving it back to workers who put into it they decided to take it and put it into health care.

Reason #7 why the Libs wont get my vote!!!

Funding healthcare? The bastards.

Not one penny did they steal from the tax payers. In fact they ran a 13 year program designed to give us back as much money as they could.

Reason #1 why the Libs will get my vote.

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ziggy ziggy:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Sorta remarkable how the LIBRANOs style themselves as the party of the people and the CPC is representative of BIG BUSINESS..........

DerbyX buys into this nonsense---when the reality is the the LPC is firmly entrenched in Bay Street and Power Corp. Their funding woes are a result of their lack of a grass-roots following.

Just as they are all commie socialists and the enemy of big buisness. Of course the fact that the CPC is in bed with big oil just means they have good buisness sense.

Yetiboy (ill)logic at its best.

In bed with big oil?...oh you mean the biggest providers to the Canadian economy.

1) Biggest provider to the economy is very debatable.

2) The problem isn't that the CPC is cozy with big oil but that anti-Liberal fuckwits say that when the Libs partner up with big buisness its somehow dirty yet when the Cons do it suddenly they are simply promoting the Candian economy.

Get it now?

The anti-conservative fuckwads always under estimate the contribution of energy resources to the Canadian economy.. CHECK THE POST ABOVE

And conservative fuckwads always downplay its negative impact. 900 tech jobs were just lost in Edmonton because of the soaring costs of employment, all thanks to the sacred energy sector.

You mean Dell? That had absolutely nothing to do with the oilpatch. Maybe you should have watched it on the news.

Dell Mcdonalds rejects work for Dell ....Dell... telephone computer sales

Alberta will sure miss them. Ontario will greet them with open arms

[DerbyX]

ziggy ziggy:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ziggy ziggy:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ziggy ziggy:

Life's tough without an EI fund to draw from.

An EI fund they used exclusively for the debt thereby saving you personally at least several thousand dollars if not far more over the last decade or so.

In addition you should be more concerned with Harper now because his gov't is using the fund in exactly the same manner.

Are you bothered by the use of the EI fund or simply bothered that it was the Liberals who used it?

If the landlord wants to take money out of my cookie jar, so I can save on rent, he can go fuck himself.

1) Then your fight is with Harper.

2) By using the EI fund they saved you personally several thousand dollars that you would never have gotten back and that is regardless of you having collected EI in the last decade or so or not.

An Employment Insurance paid for by workers who had a hard time accessing it yet it's ok for the libs to dip into it because their motives were pure?(pay down the debt) Give me a break.

Yet its perfectly OK for Harper to do so? You are becoming a tin foiler in your own right. I think you have spent to much time arguing blasting detritus and trying to defeat conspiracy nonesense with logic.

Access to EI is different from using the surplus to lower peoples taxes. I find it hypocritical that one of the biggest complaints (or misconceptions as they are commonly known) against the Liberals in terms of government is that they somehow presided over a welfare state where people where so generously funded by the tax payers that they didn't bothering looking for work yet when the Ei fund is mentioned then the "draconian" restrictions on claims is suddenly touted by those who accuses them of doling out money to the unemployed on a generous vote buying scheme.

Ziggy, you personally, were saved several thousand dollars if not more by the Liberals lowering your taxes using the money you paid into an EI fund that you were never ever going to collect anyway.

Have you been unemployed in the last 15 years and denied EI?

I have and have personally wittnessed hundreds if not thousands of others who were denied.The coal market was not exactly rosy the last 15 years,lots of rotating shutdowns of 2 weeks duration per month for sometimes a year.So legally your not laid off.The one who did get the big one had to pay it back the next three years anyways,it's called a clawback clause and they have no problem telling you that.

Your telling me the libs saved me 2 grand and you call me a foiler.

1) No you haven't. You have not "met" or "witnessed" hundreds of people cruelly being denied EI.

2) If yhats your complaint then vote NDP because Harpers "the nest welfare program is a job" should say it all to you.

3) Thousands, yup. They lowered your taxes using money you paid into the EI fund, money you would never have seen again.

4) See point #3 because its so important you should read it twice.

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mtbr mtbr:

ziggy ziggy:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Sorta remarkable how the LIBRANOs style themselves as the party of the people and the CPC is representative of BIG BUSINESS..........

DerbyX buys into this nonsense---when the reality is the the LPC is firmly entrenched in Bay Street and Power Corp. Their funding woes are a result of their lack of a grass-roots following.

Just as they are all commie socialists and the enemy of big buisness. Of course the fact that the CPC is in bed with big oil just means they have good buisness sense.

Yetiboy (ill)logic at its best.

In bed with big oil?...oh you mean the biggest providers to the Canadian economy.

1) Biggest provider to the economy is very debatable.

2) The problem isn't that the CPC is cozy with big oil but that anti-Liberal fuckwits say that when the Libs partner up with big buisness its somehow dirty yet when the Cons do it suddenly they are simply promoting the Candian economy.

Get it now?

The anti-conservative fuckwads always under estimate the contribution of energy resources to the Canadian economy.. CHECK THE POST ABOVE

And conservative fuckwads always downplay its negative impact. 900 tech jobs were just lost in Edmonton because of the soaring costs of employment, all thanks to the sacred energy sector.

You mean Dell? That had absolutely nothing to do with the oilpatch. Maybe you should have watched it on the news.

Dell Mcdonalds rejects work for Dell ....Dell... telephone computer sales

Alberta will sure miss them. Ontario will greet them with open arms

They are losing market share and did a bit of downsizing,corporate faceless cutbacks.
Nothing out of the ordinary there.I watched the interviews with the employees and they all knew it was coming.The energy sector had nothing to do with it but it's a way to mention it and Alberta in the same sentence and try and lay the blame at their feet.
Wonder why all the other call centers that closed around the world werent mentioned.

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DerbyX DerbyX:

ziggy ziggy:

Life's tough without an EI fund to draw from.

An EI fund they used exclusively for the debt thereby saving you personally at least several thousand dollars if not far more over the last decade or so.

In addition you should be more concerned with Harper now because his gov't is using the fund in exactly the same manner.

Are you bothered by the use of the EI fund or simply bothered that it was the Liberals who used it?

Kee-rist, Derby. What the hells wrong with you. This was a perfect opportunity for you to not act like a partisan robot, and you fail again. Do you agree with this Liberal fundraising? I definately doubt it, and we all can see that it violates the rules.

All you had to say is.. "hey. that's against the rules" or "that looks bad" or even "some lowly rougue bureaucrat must have made a mistake". Instead you launch into another "saving Canada" rant.
Instead of seeing this as a mistake and telling us that, you defend them.
It would have defused the situation because people saw you telling the truth and they'd see that you are dealing with issues, not blind party loyalty.

They are not all wrong, nor are they wrong all the time.. but this time, they are wrong.
Accept it and deal with it.

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DerbyX DerbyX:

1) No you haven't. You have not "met" or "witnessed" hundreds of people cruelly being denied EI.

Yes I have,in 22 years of working with about the same 5000 people I can say I know allmost everyone in the elk Valley and the crowsnest pass. I've been through the shutdowns,lockout,strikes,people getting shot at,blown up,or burnt out for the sake of a union contract,people getting manipulated etc.

Guess if all you focused on was eastern news when you were younger then you wouldnt know about EI in the west or the problems it caused when people tried to go on it.
I have some BCRIC shares for sale derby,interested?

[DerbyX]

$1:

Kee-rist, Derby. What the hells wrong with you. This was a perfect opportunity for you to not act like a partisan robot, and you fail again. Do you agree with this Liberal fundraising? I definately doubt it, and we all can see that it violates the rules.

I responded to a slight concerning the Ei fund. Its my duty to correct misinformation.

As for the funding issue, it certainly broke the spirit of the law if not the letter. They likely thought they were being creative but its hardly any different then funding issues the CPC were blackmarked when they were breaking the spirit of the law.

$1:

All you had to say is.. "hey. that's against the rules" or "that looks bad" or even "some lowly rougue bureaucrat must have made a mistake". Instead you launch into another "saving Canada" rant.
Instead of seeing this as a mistake and telling us that, you defend them.
It would have defused the situation because people saw you telling the truth and they'd see that you are dealing with issues, not blind party loyalty.

Say the person who responds to every complaint about the CPC with "ya but the Libs ..."

[DerbyX]

ziggy ziggy:

DerbyX DerbyX:

1) No you haven't. You have not "met" or "witnessed" hundreds of people cruelly being denied EI.

Yes I have,in 22 years of working with about the same 5000 people I can say I know allmost everyone in the elk Valley and the crowsnest pass. I've been through the shutdowns,lockout,strikes,people getting shot at,blown up,or burnt out for the sake of a union contract,people getting manipulated etc.

Guess if all you focused on was eastern news when you were younger then you wouldnt know about EI in the west or the problems it caused when people tried to go on it.
I have some BCRIC shares for sale derby,interested?

Still missing the point about all the complaints about the Libs and Canada being a welfare state.

I guess you will be voting NDP then because you won't see the CPC being the "workers party" anytime soon.

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Derby says

$1:

3) Thousands, yup. They lowered your taxes using money you paid into the EI fund, money you would never have seen again.

Glad to see they made the desicion I would never see it again and used it for themselves,maybe thats why I would never see it.

[DerbyX]

ziggy ziggy:

Derby says

$1:

3) Thousands, yup. They lowered your taxes using money you paid into the EI fund, money you would never have seen again.

Glad to see they made the desicion I would never see it again and used it for themselves,maybe thats why I would never see it.

They didn't use it for themselves or else you wouldn't have paid thousands less in taxes.

I notice that no matter what happens you never ever deal with the fact that HArper now controls the EI surplus and is using it as he pleases and now he's not even going to use it to lower your taxes.

Kind of like the foilers not wanting to answer your questions concerning blasting detritus eh?

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hurley_108 hurley_108:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Sorta remarkable how the LIBRANOs style themselves as the party of the people and the CPC is representative of BIG BUSINESS..........

DerbyX buys into this nonsense---when the reality is the the LPC is firmly entrenched in Bay Street and Power Corp. Their funding woes are a result of their lack of a grass-roots following.

Just as they are all commie socialists and the enemy of big buisness. Of course the fact that the CPC is in bed with big oil just means they have good buisness sense.

Yetiboy (ill)logic at its best.

In bed with big oil?...oh you mean the biggest providers to the Canadian economy.

1) Biggest provider to the economy is very debatable.

2) The problem isn't that the CPC is cozy with big oil but that anti-Liberal fuckwits say that when the Libs partner up with big buisness its somehow dirty yet when the Cons do it suddenly they are simply promoting the Candian economy.

Get it now?

The anti-conservative fuckwads always under estimate the contribution of energy resources to the Canadian economy.. CHECK THE POST ABOVE

And conservative fuckwads always downplay its negative impact. 900 tech jobs were just lost in Edmonton because of the soaring costs of employment, all thanks to the sacred energy sector.

It really was Dell http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story ... ml?ref=rss

HURLEY
"I think this site needs a "Completely Fucking Retarded" medal,"

Would you like me to pin that on you?... Retard

Looks like there will be no line up at Edmontons McD's


The real reason for their demise http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132221/article.html

[2Cdo]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Except I'm not an anti-conservative, just anti-fucktards which is why I spend most of my time defending.

Oops, where did this come from?

$1:

Left wing in Hockey. Left wing in Life.

We live as we dream, alone.

Where did I see that line before? But you're not anti-conservative.

Or how about this little gem,

DerbyX DerbyX:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Or when he needs help fixing his computer. Or when he wants a burger. Or when he wants to do anything other than sell oil.

I think this site needs a "Completely Fucking Retarded" medal, just for mtbr.

We have 2.

Take your pick:

But you're not anti-conservative, just a narrow minded soul who is as much a mouthpiece for the Liberals as some here are for the Conservatives. But you like to think and tell everyone how open minded you are. Sorry Derby, at least I'm honest about my dislike of the Liberal party and admit I will never vote for them due to past actions of them, you aren't.

[DerbyX]

Sorry but being a left winger doesn't make me an anti-conservative anymore then jokes.

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But you're not anti-conservative, just a narrow minded soul who is as much a mouthpiece for the Liberals as some here are for the Conservatives. But you like to think and tell everyone how open minded you are. Sorry Derby, at least I'm honest about my dislike of the Liberal party and admit I will never vote for them due to past actions of them, you aren't.

Narrow-minded eh? In the same sentence you admit your own narrow-mindedness you fail to prove your accusation against me.

I have always given my reasons for voting as I do and always annotated it with reasons for not voting another party. Sounds pretty honest to me.

Your real problem is that you hate the fact I support the Liberals even though you don't like them.

Sorry for your luck.

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ziggy ziggy:

You mean Dell? That had absolutely nothing to do with the oilpatch. Maybe you should have watched it on the news.

Yea, I mean Dell, and yea, it had almost everything to do with the oilpatch. Everything has everything to do with the oilpatch in Alberta. You can't even get a burger at the drive through sometimes because of staffing issues, because everyone's off working in the oilpatch. Housing prices are going through the roof ebcause of the oilpatch. Construction projects getting ridiculously expensive because of the job competition from the oilpatch, and we're not touching the brakes.

That you can't see this would be funny if it weren't so unbelievably ignorant.

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hurley_108 hurley_108:

ziggy ziggy:

You mean Dell? That had absolutely nothing to do with the oilpatch. Maybe you should have watched it on the news.

Yea, I mean Dell, and yea, it had almost everything to do with the oilpatch. Everything has everything to do with the oilpatch in Alberta. You can't even get a burger at the drive through sometimes because of staffing issues, because everyone's off working in the oilpatch. Housing prices are going through the roof ebcause of the oilpatch. Construction projects getting ridiculously expensive because of the job competition from the oilpatch, and we're not touching the brakes.

That you can't see this would be funny if it weren't so unbelievably ignorant.

I wonder who's dumb idea this was

"It also comes less than three years after the city lured the call centre with economic concessions."