|
Author |
Topic Options
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:17 am
fifeboy fifeboy: Tricks Tricks: Water.  Gum arabic is sap from a plant. Sunflower oil, given. acetic acid is a major component of vinegar. Food starch, likely corn starch or something like it. Methylcellulose is a thickening agent, ascorbic acid is vitamin C. Most of the burger is pea protein isolate and various oils (probably for taste) and various starch based additives (read plants) (probably for consistency and so it doesn't fall apart). This is what happens when you have stupid campaigns like "if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't eat it". Hamburger, especially if you buy it from an organic source is: 1- Beef 2- 3- 4- 5- And the point of the beyond meat burger is to provide an experience similar to beef but in a more sustainable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm unlikely to stop eating beef anytime soon, but doing stuff like this to move to a diet that lower in red meat is not a bad thing. Trying to demonize the ingredients because of scientific illiteracy is part of why we have so many fucking problems we do now. The human propensity for being afraid or demonizing things we don't understand is arguably the single biggest failing of our entire species.
Last edited by Tricks on Tue May 21, 2019 11:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:18 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Tricks Tricks: Water.  Gum arabic is sap from a plant. Sunflower oil, given. acetic acid is a major component of vinegar. Food starch, likely corn starch or something like it. Methylcellulose is a thickening agent, ascorbic acid is vitamin C. Most of the burger is pea protein isolate and various oils (probably for taste) and various starch based additives (read plants) (probably for consistency and so it doesn't fall apart). This is what happens when you have stupid campaigns like "if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't eat it". Annato extract is also colouring made from plant seeds. A lot more palatable than the red food dye which is made from crushed beetles. (not even making that up!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarmineI honestly didn't even bother looking that one up because it's so far down on the list it's like 3 drops. Zero fucks given.
|
Posts: 53473
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:21 am
Tricks Tricks: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Tricks Tricks: Water.  Gum arabic is sap from a plant. Sunflower oil, given. acetic acid is a major component of vinegar. Food starch, likely corn starch or something like it. Methylcellulose is a thickening agent, ascorbic acid is vitamin C. Most of the burger is pea protein isolate and various oils (probably for taste) and various starch based additives (read plants) (probably for consistency and so it doesn't fall apart). This is what happens when you have stupid campaigns like "if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't eat it". Annato extract is also colouring made from plant seeds. A lot more palatable than the red food dye which is made from crushed beetles. (not even making that up!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarmineI honestly didn't even bother looking that one up because it's so far down on the list it's like 3 drops. Zero fucks given. Very true, but I do look at ingredients when I buy products. I already knew what it was. That and I've been following the development of "Beyond Meat" for some time. Some very big names involved, so it had me curious. (Bill Gates, Tyson Foods . . )
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:23 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Very true, but I do look at ingredients when I buy products. I already knew what it was. That and I've been following the development of "Beyond Meat" for some time. Some very big names involved, so it had me curious. (Bill Gates, Tyson Foods . . )
I've been following it because I'm a carnivore that hates most plant based things. If they can make plant based burger that doesn't taste like shit, I'm game.
|
Posts: 8738
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:26 am
Tricks Tricks: fifeboy fifeboy: Tricks Tricks: Water.  Gum arabic is sap from a plant. Sunflower oil, given. acetic acid is a major component of vinegar. Food starch, likely corn starch or something like it. Methylcellulose is a thickening agent, ascorbic acid is vitamin C. Most of the burger is pea protein isolate and various oils (probably for taste) and various starch based additives (read plants) (probably for consistency and so it doesn't fall apart). This is what happens when you have stupid campaigns like "if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't eat it". Hamburger, especially if you buy it from an organic source is: 1- Beef 2- 3- 4- 5- And the point of the beyond meat burger is to provide an experience similar to beef but in a more sustainable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm unlikely to stop eating beef anytime soon, but doing stuff like this to move to a diet that lower in red meat is not a bad thing. Trying to demonize the ingredients because of scientific illiteracy is part of why we have so many fucking problems we do now. The human propensity for being afraid or demonizing things we don't understand is arguably the single biggest failing of our entire species. I've nothing against a vegetarian diet and go meatless sometimes, but want my meatless to be just that. If I'm going to eat beans, I'll do so, but if I want meat, I don't want a meat substitute.
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:28 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: You don't know what canola or coconut oil are? Yeast? Potato? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) You missed a couple of points. It isn't coconut oil it's refined coconut oil and what the fuck is yeast extract? When you extract a product from it's host plant it isn't that plant anymore. Besides, I've never gone into a restaurant and ordered cellulose from bamboo, non-gmo modified vegetable glycerin or potato starch so, I'm pretty sure they aren't a mainstream vegetable like the manufacturer of this abomination is trying to say. But it is nice to know that they don't use genetically modified plants. But, anyway the proper term for advertising this faux meat shouldn't be "beyond meat" it should be "try our frankenburger" brought to you through the marvel of modern science.
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:42 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: DrCaleb DrCaleb: You don't know what canola or coconut oil are? Yeast? Potato? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) You missed a couple of points. It isn't coconut oil it's refined coconut oil Refined coconut oil is steamed. $1: and what the fuck is yeast extract? When you extract a product from it's host plant it isn't that plant anymore. It's flavouring. It provides the savoury taste. Basically if you've eaten soup, you've eaten yeast extract. $1: Besides, I've never gone into a restaurant and ordered cellulose from bamboo, non-gmo modified vegetable glycerin or potato starch so, I'm pretty sure they aren't a mainstream vegetable like the manufacturer of this abomination is trying to say. But it is nice to know that they don't use genetically modified plants. Just because you don't know you've ordered it, doesn't mean you haven't ordered it. And you're aware that just because something has been made extracted out of a vegetable, doesn't.. change it from being made from that vegetable right? Potato starch still comes from potatoes. So you've eaten potato starch if you've eaten potatoes. Consuming oranges means you've also consumed orange juice. $1: But, anyway the proper term for advertising this faux meat shouldn't be "beyond meat" it should be "try our frankenburger" brought to you through the marvel of modern science. And here we have more demonizing of things we don't understand.
|
Posts: 23084
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:34 pm
Is the Beyond Meat burger the Canadian name for the Impossible Burger? Or is it a unique product?
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:39 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Is the Beyond Meat burger the Canadian name for the Impossible Burger? Or is it a unique product? Two different companies.
|
Posts: 18770
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:41 pm
Is an argument between 2 Vegans still called a "beef"?
|
Posts: 35270
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:52 pm
Tricks Tricks: raydan raydan: I thought you didn't like processed food, Doc. $1: pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin. Notice that there isn't actually any plants in the Beyond Meat ingredients... at least nothing that counts in the quantity of plants you should eat every day.  ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) The first ingredient is pea protein isolate. Peas are a plant aren't they? The isolation is basically just running ground up peas through water, which separates the starch and fibre out. When I read the article (sorry I didn't post the link), they said it didn't count.
|
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 3:09 pm
Tricks Tricks: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: DrCaleb DrCaleb: You don't know what canola or coconut oil are? Yeast? Potato? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) You missed a couple of points. It isn't coconut oil it's refined coconut oil Refined coconut oil is steamed. $1: and what the fuck is yeast extract? When you extract a product from it's host plant it isn't that plant anymore. It's flavouring. It provides the savoury taste. Basically if you've eaten soup, you've eaten yeast extract. $1: Besides, I've never gone into a restaurant and ordered cellulose from bamboo, non-gmo modified vegetable glycerin or potato starch so, I'm pretty sure they aren't a mainstream vegetable like the manufacturer of this abomination is trying to say. But it is nice to know that they don't use genetically modified plants. Just because you don't know you've ordered it, doesn't mean you haven't ordered it. And you're aware that just because something has been made extracted out of a vegetable, doesn't.. change it from being made from that vegetable right? Potato starch still comes from potatoes. So you've eaten potato starch if you've eaten potatoes. Consuming oranges means you've also consumed orange juice. $1: But, anyway the proper term for advertising this faux meat shouldn't be "beyond meat" it should be "try our frankenburger" brought to you through the marvel of modern science. And here we have more demonizing of things we don't understand. I'm sorry but, I do fully understand what these plant based "products" are and what they do which, besides imitating meat is, to be the first step by modern science and the social engineers to remove meat from our food stream entirely or at the least partially in order "to save the planet". So, eat all the imitation meat you want because that's your choice, just don't join the crowd that's pushing this latest abomination and trying to impose their lifestyle choices on the rest of us and we'll get along fine. $1: Following a vegan trend
Recommendations to scale back meat consumption aren't new. Just this past October, a study published in the journal Nature set similar guidelines for reducing meat and sugar consumption.
What's different about this new report, says Fanzo, are the steps outlined to put such a change into place.
Branded what the authors call a “Great Food Transformation,” it outlines strategies that range from the least active, simply sharing information, to the most aggressive, eliminating consumer choice. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envi ... te-change/The logical followup to the meatless meat discussion will likely at some point in the future concern the merits of Soylent Green? 
|
Posts: 15244
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:46 pm
I bought some from sobeys, pack of 2 costs 7.99 so probably not going to replace my regular frozen 8-pack of PC or.Compliments brand burgers which IIRC are around 10.99. But if I wanna doing something fancier, or had some vegan guests then I definitely would get some more.
Comparing, the nutritional info and nobody will be surprised to learn that the Beyond Meat is significantly healthier right across the board...especially in sodium, which is usually where “processed” foods fail miserably.
As for flavour , I found them to be quite tasty, they are seasoned to have their own unique flavour not simply trying to imitate the taste of a standard burger patty . But it’s not some exotic or weird vegan flavour either I recall it being something like a hint of bbq or southwestern kind of flavour definitely within the range of what someone might otherwise season a beef meatball or ground beef for a specialty dish.
|
Posts: 35270
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:57 pm
$1: Nutrition
Nutrition-wise, both burgers are comparable to a beef patty. The Beyond Burger has 22 grams of total fat and five grams of saturated fat per quarter pound, while the Impossible Burger has 17 grams of total fat but a whopping 15 grams of saturated fat! That's a full 72% of your daily allowance. No wonder it tastes so juicy. The Beyond Burger also has 20 grams of protein, while the Impossible Burger has 28 grams.
This high fat content translates to a familiar feeling of burger bloat after you've finished eating. I wanted to do nothing more than sit on the couch and faux-meat veg out after eating them, though that feeling was stronger with the Beyond Burger. These kinds of effects are very hard to measure in an objective way, so take all that with a grain of salt. https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/10/bey ... -test.html
|
Posts: 14139
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:10 pm
Tricks Tricks: fifeboy fifeboy: Tricks Tricks: Water.  Gum arabic is sap from a plant. Sunflower oil, given. acetic acid is a major component of vinegar. Food starch, likely corn starch or something like it. Methylcellulose is a thickening agent, ascorbic acid is vitamin C. Most of the burger is pea protein isolate and various oils (probably for taste) and various starch based additives (read plants) (probably for consistency and so it doesn't fall apart). This is what happens when you have stupid campaigns like "if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't eat it". Hamburger, especially if you buy it from an organic source is: 1- Beef 2- 3- 4- 5- And the point of the beyond meat burger is to provide an experience similar to beef but in a more sustainable way. Get rid of the fast food dumps and other chain restaurants and beef would be more sustainable. I find it odd with all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over oil (and coal) that it seems many people do not understand that the agriculture-franchise restaurant industrial chain is arguably as destructive as the oil industry and unquestionably the most wasteful. My wife and calculated that you could get around 2500 1/4 lb burgers out of your average steer. There are also over 23,000 locations across NA between just between McDonalds and Burger King. Now, if every one of those locations toss out only ONE 1/4 pounder a day, it also means that all the resources used in raising, transporting and butchering 9 cows also goes in the dumpster with them. That's just one burger per day per location for two chains. We know more than 1 per location gets tossed per day. Then factor in all the other fast food dumps and the number of wasted cows starts getting out of hand. Food sustainability isn't the problem, it's all the goddam waste. When I was younger I worked at a Swiss Chalet corporate restaurant (not a franchisee) and was disgusted by the amount of chicken that got tossed in the dumpster at the end of the day. Entire chickens would often end up in the dumpster. Which was really stupid because there was a homeless shelter literally 2 minutes down the road.
|
|
Page 3 of 5
|
[ 63 posts ] |
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests |
|
|