[andyt]

Women are just helpless, weak minded victims of the vast patriarchal conspiracy. They can't help buying products that use sexism to sell, can't help buying into the beauty ideal promoted by those bastard patriarchs and can't be expected to clearly say no if a man makes unwanted advances. What's the matter with us men, why aren't we taking care of the little ladies, figuring it all out for them and protecting them from the mean patriarchs.

I just don't understand how feminists, who claim they are about empowering women, do so many things to portray women as weak and helpless.

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[Jabberwalker]

... if they get that far and they probably won't ...

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[raydan]

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Raise a kid on meth and they'll probably do meth as an adult too.

I was raised on breast milk... stopped cold turkey.

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[Jabberwalker]

... THEN were you weaned?

[andyt]

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Raise a kid on meth and they'll probably do meth as an adult too.

What do you want andy? I'm the kind of feminist who thinks the best rape whistle is a gun. Do you want more aggressive feminists who actually bring white male fears to life? Me too. Something tells me you like it the way it is.

Guess you're just predisposed to going off the deep end in either direction. Always have predicted you'll be a Randian some day. If a women is being raped, let her use her gun if she has one. Let's hope before she shoots the guy down tho, she at least said a clear no, so the guy has a chance to back off. In your world, I know, all men are violent rapists, but most of the discussion in the media these days is about a guy not getting a clear signal to back off in what was a consensual situation a minute ago. It's just not that black and white. The MP having sex with the other MP (equal levels of power) and she gives him a condom, that's not rape. If she didn't want to have sex, she needs to clearly let him no. It's only rape if he persists after that.

So I don't want women who glower at men while fingering their piece, ready to draw if he dares to subject them to the male gaze. I want women that know how to say no, and also at times take the initiative when they want yes. They don't act like delicate flowers waiting for the guy to make the move, then scream bloody rape when he does. I don't want "all heterosexual sex is rape" Andrea Dworkin, I don't want Phyllis Shafly, I want regular women. The kind you actually meet every day. Guess I'm just not as handsome as you are, so I've had plenty of women say, or even just indicate no to my advances.

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[Thanos]

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I'm not "worked up" but I do love how men get to decide what is and is not worthy of legitimate challenges. The real victims can be seen here on CKA. White men, oh woe is us, the sruggle we go through, with black people demanding our cops stop profiling them to women demanding we stop perving on them, what is left for us white men? Our liberties are being taken from us! Soon we will have no one to keep down, and then it'll be chaos!

Sexual assault and birth control options being taken away by religious nuts are causes worth fighting over. A sexy ad campaign that some puritan is angry about isn't. Seriously, some perspective is desperately needed here.

[raydan]

Truth be told, my mom had big problems giving birth to me and almost didn't make it... so I was actually raised on Carnation evaporated milk. The only time I tasted breast milk, was after my son was born.

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[Jabberwalker]

My mother was La Leche league a generation before it became fashionable.



Still not quite weaned yet, though.

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