[PublicAnimalNo9]

desertdude desertdude:

See that's where you don't understand your own immigration system of which there are two types, federal and provincial. Federal is tougher while provincial has more laxed rules but comes with the condition you have to live and work in that province for at least a period of two years.

But these provincial plans are so poorly advertised and promoted hardly anyone has heard of them. If these provinces need worker they need to do a better job of advertising themselves. How many people living outside of Canada do you think have even heard of a province in Canada called Saskatchewan or Winnipeg ? Majority of the world thinks the capital of Canada is Toronto.

http://www.saskimmigrationcanada.ca/

There is no such thing as a provincial immigration system. Any and all applicants must go through the fed. The fed will work in conjunction with the provinces to try and help meet their needs but nobody files an application to emigrate to Ontario or Saskatchewan, they file it to emigrate to Canada.

$1:

How many people living outside of Canada do you think have even heard of a province in Canada called Saskatchewan or Winnipeg?

The Filipinos sure managed to figure it out pretty quick. I guess it's because they actually come here to work.

[desertdude]

Of course they go through the fed but the fed rules don't apply each, province have their own rules as to who qualifies or not. You could fail the fed and then apply to a province program and get accepted.

As for Filipinos you will find them working even in the weirdest places on this planet.

[Zipperfish]

tk ur jrbs!!!!!

[Yogi]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PostFactum PostFactum:

Simple law break, why so much noise?

Because it's eroding society. People who want to work, like the ladies in the article, can't because they need to earn enough to make a living. The restaurant owner can use TFWs at lower pay instead.

And it's not just here, for example, a welding company let go a whole crew and replaced them with TFWs, and nothing was done. It's clearly against the law to lay Canadians off and replace them with out of country workers.

And the TFworkers are often treated very poorly on top of it.

They were rehired the next day.


http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/02/07/f ... n-labour-2

[andyt]

As you can tell by zip's and dan's comments, Yogi, it only matters if you lose your job to those furriners, so don't worry about it.

[saturn_656]

Yogi Yogi:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PostFactum PostFactum:

Simple law break, why so much noise?

Because it's eroding society. People who want to work, like the ladies in the article, can't because they need to earn enough to make a living. The restaurant owner can use TFWs at lower pay instead.

And it's not just here, for example, a welding company let go a whole crew and replaced them with TFWs, and nothing was done. It's clearly against the law to lay Canadians off and replace them with out of country workers.

And the TFworkers are often treated very poorly on top of it.

They were rehired the next day.


http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/02/07/f ... n-labour-2

$1:

By Friday afternoon, Pacer-Promec announced it would re-hire the displaced ironworkers. The company said it regrets its actions and acknowledges the temporary foreign workers should have been assigned to other projects.

They only regret being called on it.

[Yogi]

^^

Nobody ever steps up and apologizes before they are 'caught'!

[DrCaleb]

Yogi Yogi:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

PostFactum PostFactum:

Simple law break, why so much noise?

Because it's eroding society. People who want to work, like the ladies in the article, can't because they need to earn enough to make a living. The restaurant owner can use TFWs at lower pay instead.

And it's not just here, for example, a welding company let go a whole crew and replaced them with TFWs, and nothing was done. It's clearly against the law to lay Canadians off and replace them with out of country workers.

And the TFworkers are often treated very poorly on top of it.

They were rehired the next day.


http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/02/07/f ... n-labour-2

No they weren't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/02/12 ... 74892.html

[Yogi]

Seems that you are correct Calebin the spirit of the discussion.

Herein lies the confusion.

In an effort to reverse the bad press facing the company, Pacer Promec promised to rescind the hiring of the temporary foreign workers and instead, rehire Canadian workers. But, the company hired a different group of workers than the original fired ones, and at a lower rate of pay than the original group of workers.

http://www.marxist.ca/labour/labour-new ... rkers.html

[DrCaleb]

Yogi Yogi:

Seems that you are correct Calebin the spirit of the discussion.

Herein lies the confusion.

In an effort to reverse the bad press facing the company, Pacer Promec promised to rescind the hiring of the temporary foreign workers and instead, rehire Canadian workers. But, the company hired a different group of workers than the original fired ones, and at a lower rate of pay than the original group of workers.

http://www.marxist.ca/labour/labour-new ... rkers.html

Yea, the article was kind of unclear who got the jobs. Either way; the TFWs are employed (somewhere), and the original welders are unemployed. I doubt for long though.

[Yogi]

As a business owner, what would you do? Hire workers to do the job for $36.00/hr + benefits, or hire workers equally capable of doing the job for $18.00/hr-no benefits?

[DrCaleb]

Yogi Yogi:

As a business owner, what would you do? Hire workers to do the job for $36.00/hr + benefits, or hire workers equally capable of doing the job for $18.00/hr-no benefits?

I'd make sure the people I hired were qualified so I don't lose the contract, and I'd make sure that my bid on the contract included the wages needed to hire and keep those people. And I wouldn't fire my crew because a cheaper crew came along. That's the way to be sure you don't last long in an industry that relies on reputation.

I'm not a 'fast buck an any price' kind of person.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Yogi Yogi:

As a business owner, what would you do? Hire workers to do the job for $36.00/hr + benefits, or hire workers equally capable of doing the job for $18.00/hr-no benefits?

I'd make sure the people I hired were qualified so I don't lose the contract, and I'd make sure that my bid on the contract included the wages needed to hire and keep those people. And I wouldn't fire my crew because a cheaper crew came along. That's the way to be sure you don't last long in an industry that relies on reputation.

I'm not a 'fast buck an any price' kind of person.

Neither am I, I was paying my teachers 5x what they could make at a normal teaching job.

However, I was paying top dollar for a reason, not 'just anyone' could do the job.


Yogi, you describe perfectly why the TFW system isn't working properly.

Restaurant workers SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE LIST IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It's not skilled labour.

[Zipperfish]

Yogi Yogi:

As a business owner, what would you do? Hire workers to do the job for $36.00/hr + benefits, or hire workers equally capable of doing the job for $18.00/hr-no benefits?

Seems like an easy decision. Until the press gets a hold of it and it backfires and next thing you know your company is having to offer apologies and has to take down their social media sites due to hate mail.

[Brenda]

martin14 martin14:

Yogi, you describe perfectly why the TFW system isn't working properly.

Restaurant workers SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE LIST IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It's not skilled labour.

The TFW program is NOT to hire skilled workers. It is to hire cheap labour. Check the requirements. NOC skill category C and D. Truck drivers and UNskilled labourors.