[saturn_656]

Curtman Curtman:

Right.. Completely different.

Natural Gas and Oil are different. Want me to go into detail?

$1:

Who owns the land - it's "Crown Land". Who granted the permits - The province.

Since natural resources are provincial jurisdiction it is in their authority to grant those permits.

$1:

Coates doesn't believe First Nations people want to stop development completely. Rather he says they want it stopped until there is a measure of environmental control and a negotiated financial return.

"They're tired of being left economically marginalized and without the opportunity to participate and they want the land and resources necessary to create a positive, constructive future for themselves and it seems to me to be a perfectly rational and reasonable argument and one that's overdue," said Coates.

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Ten companies are currently licensed to explore for shale gas in New Brunswick, but SWN is the only company conducting seismic testing.

It's a little bit early to get into revenue sharing considering that the extent of the potential resource hasn't been identified.

What's wrong with seismic testing? It's a tested and proven method of mapping potential resources.

[BRAH]

If you are a Native in Canada it's a free pass to continuously break the law under the disguise of protesting.

[saturn_656]

BRAH BRAH:

If you are a Native in Canada it's a free pass to continuously break the law under the disguise of protesting.

Not quite. 40+ protestors were arrested yesterday.

[martin14]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

What's wrong with seismic testing? It's a tested and proven method of mapping potential resources.

To be fair, SWN was caught a few weeks ago testing in an 'environmentally sensitive' area.

Meaning other property owners in the area can't even build a shed, never mind a drilling rig.


The obvious question is, why are they testing in an area they 'know' they can't drill in ?


The reputation of the companies has never been very good in the East, and some of it
is very justified. They have already broken lots of laws and regulations.


Want some fun reading ?

Google Penobsquis

tl:dr mine 'maybe' destroyed local water system, and land subsidence,
lots of wailing, residents who used to have clean well water for free now have to pay for municipal system.
Resale value of homes destroyed, government did absolutely nothing to help.

[DrCaleb]

$1:

Native protesters were armed with bombs at anti-fracking rally, RCMP say


HALIFAX — Officers who shut down a shale gas protest in New Brunswick on Thursday found bombs containing shrapnel, firearms with a large amount of ammunition, knives and bear spray among the protesters, a top RCMP official says.

“The weapons and explosives we seized show that this was no longer a peaceful protest and there was a serious threat to public safety,” Assistant commissioner Roger Brown said on Friday.

Brown says the Mounties were concerned lives could be in danger if they had not responded Thursday at the site near Rexton.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/18 ... pons-rcmp/

[saturn_656]

Bullshit, Mounties must have planted it!

/sarcasm

[Canadian_Mind]

Bombs are concerning.

[Curtman]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Bombs are concerning.

True...

RCMP bombed oil site in 'dirty tricks' campaign

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The revelation came at the bail hearing Thursday of two farmers who the Crown says have turned their complaints that oil industry pollution is making their families ill into acts of vandalism and mischief.

Their lawyer produced evidence that the RCMP bombed a wellsite and that they did it with the full support of the energy company that owned it. The Crown admits the allegations are true.
...
Lawyer Richard Secord told Court of Queen's Bench that when Alberta Energy Co. and police blew up an AEC shed last Oct. 14, they blamed it on his client, farmer Wiebo Ludwig.

[Benn]

If you think the cops were too tough on the little aboriginal first persons just apply the Muslim test.

Replace gun toting, firebombing, pipe bomb wielding, natives threatening and attacking cops and interfering with the law with the a group of Muslims doing the same thing and tell me how you think things would have turned out? I think they got off pretty good.

For anyone talking of the cops planting that stuff it is interesting none of the terrorists or their leaders have denied these weapons were theirs. That I've heard at least so far.

[Jabberwalker]

The RCMP became famous for their dirty tricks a few decades back. That is one of the reasons for the creation of CSIS. Do you really want your police force doing James Bond stuff on the side?

[Benn]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

The RCMP became famous for their dirty tricks a few decades back. That is one of the reasons for the creation of CSIS. Do you really want your police force doing James Bond stuff on the side?

They've been encroaching back into it more and more over the last decade and it is something we all should watch. I agree with how it is, no one entity should hold law enforcement powers and intelligence / spying powers together.

[saturn_656]

Looks like some thugs are still lingering. They accosted a female reporter and seized her car and equipment.

Guess the RCMP were no where close?

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.h ... and-camera

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REXTON, N.B. — A reporter for Global News in New Brunswick was threatened and a news vehicle and camera were seized by five protesters in Rexton, N.B., Saturday.

Laura Brown was at the site of an ongoing shale gas protest around noon when the protesters confronted another media outlet and seized a vehicle.

Global News news director Jim Haskins said Brown got into her vehicle and locked the door, but was threatened by the protesters.

“They knocked on the window and demanded that she get out of the vehicle and leave it,” said Haskins. “At first she refused, but the situation she felt was unsafe and unstable so reluctantly she locked the vehicle, left and started walking away.

Brown was safe at an RCMP detachment later Saturday afternoon and was giving a statement to police.

The RCMP could not immediately be reached for comment.

[N_Fiddledog]

As far as conspiracy theories go, I like the one that says these anti-fracking protests are instigated by American eco organizations financed by Saudis. Some say a big chunk of the more active protesters aren't even from the area. They're flown in.

I was just watching one of the videos of a protest in slow motion. I saw a Mohawk warrior jacket, a Che hat, and a Palestinian keffiyeh scarf.

[Thanos]

Nothing new there. All the choads of a like mind flock together when these silly things erupt. Elizabeth May & Tom Mulcair will soon show up and be joined by movement stalwarts like Darryl Hannah & Robert Redford any moment now. I'm old school. Nothing going on here that a torrent of police truncheons and a cloud of tear gas wouldn't immediately solve.

[DrCaleb]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

As far as conspiracy theories go, I like the one that says these anti-fracking protests are instigated by American eco organizations financed by Saudis.

I laugh at the whole anti-fracking protest here. It's a survey company! They haven't finished surveying the gas field yet! No one even knows if fracking will be needed!