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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:43 am
 


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What the HELL are you talking about....????


Evidently most of info flies over your sloped head - not my problem.

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From your OWN link above the Imapla it has a MSN rating of 8.0 / User rating of 8.9 compared to the Camry's of MSN 7.8 / User's 7.8...


Don't give a crap about MSN ratings - already said that here, "And no, i don't give a flying crap what MSN users think. Next you'll be quoting yourself, wiki and your fridge." current-events-f59/chrysler-threatens-to-pull-out-of-canada-t73214-225.html. F*uck, can you even read?!?!?


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Now who is lying????


You, asswipe. Remember when you barfed out that Lemon Aid suggested Domestics were better than Honda/Toyota? Lie. OR that there were magazines that suggested the same thing? Lie. Or when you deliberately compared different models of the Impala to the Camry (instead of comparing base vs. base, for instance) to skew results? Lie. You've got no currency here, bullcrapper.


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Next time read the article you post before making wild allegations....!!!!!!!


I did. You messed up.

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AND I noticed you selected the base Camry LE but did not compare it to a base Impala LS... You compared it to the 3LT which has the 3.9liter engine. The LS has the base 3.5..


Okay, so I made a similar error to you (but i'll admit mine whereas you deny yours). If you compare the base models the Camry STILL HOLDS ITS VALUE BETTER! And by a significant margin. So, i'm still right, and you're still a dumbass liar.


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Maybe compare the Camry LE V6 to the Impala LS. Both have V6's...


Nope. Depreciation favors the Toyota. Deal with it.

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In which case the base Camry LE V6 costs more then the base Impala LS...

Impala Base Retail Price (MSRP) $20,330, Camry $22,780
Impala Base Invoice Price $19,212, Camry $20,272


And guess which one holds its value better! I'll wager the Camry. My point still stands and you're still out to lunch.

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Plus the Impala has an higher safety rating (side crashes)...


WRONG!! More lies. The Impala was given an overall "Acceptable" score for front impact collisions and "Good" for side impacts. The Camry achieved "Good" in both. As per usual you're wrong or lied or just complete JAFO.

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Can I trust anything you post?


Projection from the biggest snake oil jockey here. Sorry, don't care.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:47 am
 


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This is hilarious - even stammerer might get it (okay, he won't, but he'll pretend he did and then ask his cat to explain it to him later)

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot ... ry_feature

Here's what happens when you rely only on top tens - even C/D can admit its mistakes. Count the domestics - 9 of the 10!!!!! You'll notice NO Hondas or Toyotas (and for the record, more Hondas have been chosen to C/D's Top Ten than any other manufacturer).

Best line..."Moments after the Malibu went on sale, it became a fixture in fleets; it was the perfect car to buy when you’re buying 600." Maybe even the dumbest dregs will get that fleet cars - like TAXIS - are purchased, in large part, due to PRICE!!!!!


I'll just bump this so stammererer, can call Canadian Tire to explain it to him.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:24 pm
 


Now look at the safety ratings for the Impala and the Camry....

I've circled them in red to help you....

Th Impala's is better in side crashes....


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You, asswipe. Remember when you barfed out that Lemon Aid suggested Domestics were better than Honda/Toyota? Lie. OR that there were magazines that suggested the same thing? Lie. Or when you deliberately compared different models of the Impala to the Camry (instead of comparing base vs. base, for instance) to skew results? Lie. You've got no currency here, bullcrapper.


As I've explained and you're failing to grasp... He said it on a radio talk show....!!!! Now deal with it....


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Hey stupid, here's iihs' version http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=251 for Camry and Impala http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=640. Hmmm...that's what i posted, isn't it? Idiot.

This also doesn't alter the fact - which you cowered from - that the Camry still has a better resale value! Want to compare a Civic to a Sunfire? Or an Accord to a Malibu? Didn't think so.

Still waiting on the Lemon Aid quote, chicken. Bawk, bawk.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:48 pm
 


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Chrysler already working behind the scenes to pull out of Canada


Sources familiar with Chrysler's plans say the automaker has already begun work behind the scenes to pull its operations out of Canada if it can't reach an agreement with the Canadian Auto Workers by the end of the month.

Chrysler Canada has said it needs to cut its labour costs by approximately $20 an hour to be competitive with foreign automakers such as Toyota.

Currently, the company estimates its all-in hourly labour costs - which include wages, benefits and legacy costs such as pensions - to be approximately $76. To be competitive with Toyota plants operating in Canada, it says it needs to reduce those costs to $57 an hour.

Chrysler president Tom LaSorda told a parliamentary committee last week that the company may not be able to continue operating in Canada if it can't reduce its labour costs enough to be competitive.

A source familiar with Chrysler's labour objectives said the company has already started considering "alternative locations with more competitive cost structures" for its Canadian operations, which include employ about 10,000 hourly workers at assembly plants in Brampton, Ont., and Windsor, Ont., and a casting plant in Toronto.

CAW president Ken Lewenza has said there is no way the union will give more to Chrysler than it gave to General Motors Canada in negotiations earlier this month.

Chrysler estimates the agreement with GM, which was ratified by CAW members last week, cuts that company's labour costs by approximately $7 an hour - an amount LaSorda characterized as "unacceptable."

The source said Chrysler Canada believes it can achieve its cost reduction goals without cutting base wages. Instead, the company will look at cutting benefits such as paid time off, unemployment assistance and overtime premiums.

When CAW benefits are compared to those of the United Auto Workers in the U.S., there is plenty of wiggle room, the source said.

For example, CAW employees receive a maximum of six weeks vacation time, while UAW employees only receive five, and CAW workers also receive substantially more break time per shift than their American counterparts.

The source said Chrysler would also consider moving to a two-tier wage structure like that used at its plants in the United States, cutting benefits for retirees and possibly developing a union-administered benefits trust, as well as scrapping other benefits like the company's tuition assistance plan for dependants.

Chrysler Canada must submit a finalized restructuring plan, including a new labour contract, to the federal and Ontario governments by the end of March in order to receive the roughly US$2.3 billion in aid it has requested.

The company has said that if it can't reach an agreement with the CAW it won't receive government aid, thus forcing it to close its Canadian operations.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0903 ... rysler_caw

Yeah, they deserve another bail-out...


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Mustang1 Mustang1:
Hey stupid, here's iihs' version http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=251 for Camry and Impala http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=640. Hmmm...that's what i posted, isn't it? Idiot.

This also doesn't alter the fact - which you cowered from - that the Camry still has a better resale value! Want to compare a Civic to a Sunfire? Or an Accord to a Malibu? Didn't think so.

Still waiting on the Lemon Aid quote, chicken. Bawk, bawk.


A Camry has a better resale value then an Impala? You're on crack....!!!!! A 40+ year old Impala (ie: 1962 Impala SS with a 409) will have an higher value then any Camry....!!!!!!!!

Go back to your books... As I said I'll take my own personal experience with Toyota over anything I'll read in a book....!!!! YES... I've owned Toyotas (Celica, Landcruiser).... They were no more reliable then any other car I've owned and the parts were 2-3x the price of a GM or Ford....

AND when is it going to get through that THICK SKULL of YOURS Phil Edmonston said it on the radio....!!!! Do you not comprehend????


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:42 am
 


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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090317/national/chrysler_caw
Yeah, they deserve another bail-out...


Chrysler's threat is not directed at the union, but at the Revenue Canada, which has a $500 million lien on Chrysler's Brampton plant and has withheld $335 million in tax rebates owed to Chrysler. The two parties are disputing $1 billion in taxed owed.

Now please re-read...the Canadian government has withheld $335 million in tax rebates owing to Chrysler....!!!!!!!!

http://business.theglobeandmail.com/ser ... iness/home


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:47 am
 


which leaves them still owing the Canadian gov't $665 million dollars.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:54 am
 


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A Camry has a better resale value then an Impala? You're on crack....!!!!! A 40+ year old Impala (ie: 1962 Impala SS with a 409) will have an higher value then any Camry....!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:01 am
 


stemmer stemmer:
bootlegga bootlegga:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090317/national/chrysler_caw
Yeah, they deserve another bail-out...


Chrysler's threat is not directed at the union, but at the Revenue Canada, which has a $500 million lien on Chrysler's Brampton plant and has withheld $335 million in tax rebates owed to Chrysler. The two parties are disputing $1 billion in taxed owed.

Now please re-read...the Canadian government has withheld $335 million in tax rebates owing to Chrysler....!!!!!!!!

http://business.theglobeandmail.com/ser ... iness/home


Apparently you're the one with reading comprehension issues as the article clearly states that the 335 million is being withheld as collateral on the debt.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:08 am
 


The point is - instead of giving Chrysler a bailout just waive the taxes...!!!!! Even your buddy Jack Layton agrees....


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stemmer stemmer:

A Camry has a better resale value then an Impala? You're on crack....!!!!! A 40+ year old Impala (ie: 1962 Impala SS with a 409) will have an higher value then any Camry....!!!!!!!!


Holy Crap Batman, what shortbus puked you up?!? A 2006 Camry will be worth more than a 2006 Impala, asshat. That was the context. Please take a break as you're slowly becoming a yet another cautionary tale

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Go back to your books... As I said I'll take my own personal experience with Toyota over anything I'll read in a book....!!!! YES... I've owned Toyotas (Celica, Landcruiser).... They were no more reliable then any other car I've owned and the parts were 2-3x the price of a GM or Ford....


I'll go back to my industry periodicals because they smack down your "hammer and nail" smarts and beat your dipwad anecdotal nonsense like a red-headed stepchild. Hey liar, anything on Lemon Aid? Didn't thinks so. Bawk, bawk, bawk.

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AND when is it going to get through that THICK SKULL of YOURS Phil Edmonston said it on the radio....!!!! Do you not comprehend????


"Thick Skull" must be f*cktardese for "educated" because i don't believe some mouthbreathing, dementia-addled, ignoramuses like you. You're a firstrate dumbass and you've been caught smelling like horsecrap. Take a bath or piss off.

If Phil said it on the radio, its likely in print. Prove it, liar.


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stemmer stemmer:
A Camry has a better resale value then an Impala? You're on crack....!!!!! A 40+ year old Impala (ie: 1962 Impala SS with a 409) will have an higher value then any Camry....!!!!!!!!


"Fail"? Try "Schooled". :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:09 am
 


stemmer stemmer:
The point is - instead of giving Chrysler a bailout just waive the taxes...!!!!! Even your buddy Jack Layton agrees....


Oh, so now you agree with everything Layton says, eh? I'll remember that.


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