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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:18 am
 


Turns out that some of them don't like Jews either:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/18/hitler-israel/

$8000 for two hours in an emergency ward is OK, anything that might cost a bit less is pure Commy-ism! Lousy commie gummint!

Barney Frank also nails one of these idiots to the wall:



Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler nigger president Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler DE BLICKS Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler MORE APARTHEID FOR POOR PEOPLE Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler SOCIALESM Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler COMYOONISS Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler healtchare Nazis DEATH PANEL.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:37 am
 


ASLplease ASLplease:
History shows that it is the governments that don't allow citizens to carry arms that end up commiting the worst crimes of humanity.....against their own people!


Like Canada? Leave history alone...it won't help your cause.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:50 am
 


travior travior:
Ain't Freedom of Speach, Freedom to Bear Arms and Freedom to Protest great? :)



Yeah cant say you can do all of this in Canada !!! But they dont know this, they cant see through their need to be different from the USA at any cost.


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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
travior travior:
Ain't Freedom of Speach, Freedom to Bear Arms and Freedom to Protest great? :)



Yeah cant say you can do all of this in Canada !!! But they dont know this, they cant see through their need to be different from the USA at any cost.


It's not a "need" to be different, it's a "desire" and a "choice".


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:17 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
So that's why they need to fill half the town hall meeting seats with union stooges and planted campaign insiders? To even out that debate?
Who was demonizing the other side again?



Maybe...the memo I posted a few pages back shows the repubs circulated instructions for their followers to do exactly that along with instructions on how to disrupt and undermine democracy by preventing elected politicians from speak with their consituents. My understanding is the "union stooges" started showing up outside the events and mixing it up with the other demonstrators, but lets not forget who started showing up first.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:18 am
 


Beaver you need to post that stuff again....and maybe again after that. It was choice material.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:21 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
Turns out that some of them don't like Jews either:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/18/hitler-israel/

$8000 for two hours in an emergency ward is OK, anything that might cost a bit less is pure Commy-ism! Lousy commie gummint!

Barney Frank also nails one of these idiots to the wall:



Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler nigger president Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler DE BLICKS Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler MORE APARTHEID FOR POOR PEOPLE Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler SOCIALESM Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler COMYOONISS Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler healtchare Nazis DEATH PANEL.


A perfect representation of the squealing little-girl panic the dumbest are prone to. Yep. "Health Care!?!" and all of a sudden every twit with a rifle thinks he's Patrick Henry...."Over my dead body!!!". As ironic as it is pathetic.


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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
travior travior:
Ain't Freedom of Speach, Freedom to Bear Arms and Freedom to Protest great? :)



Yeah cant say you can do all of this in Canada !!! But they dont know this, they cant see through their need to be different from the USA at any cost.


We are different than the USA and it din't cost us anything.


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Akhenaten Akhenaten:
A perfect representation of the squealing little-girl panic the dumbest are prone to. Yep. "Health Care!?!" and all of a sudden every twit with a rifle thinks he's Patrick Henry...."Over my dead body!!!". As ironic as it is pathetic.



Ive come to realize from most of the posts on this topic Canadians have no true understanding of liberty, (as many Americans)


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Proculation Proculation:
Every male in Switzerland has a mandatory military training and keep their ASSAULT rifle at home. They can carry it. They also have to train every year. And it is one of the more peaceful country on Earth. You can have guns without killing everyone in your sight... I will say like ridenrain: I guess those who have a problem with guns are those who should not have one because they could be dangerous.


That's a very.... very very bad example.

Every male in Switzerland gets mandatory training, and go through a load of background checks, taught responsibility, etc. etc.

Those in the US have completely avoided this whole service to their country and just think it's their God Given Right to own any gun they want, carry a gun anywhere they go, and use their gun as they please.

Very little background checks, very little training for most, very little education on responsibility, etc. in the US..... Oh and did I also mention that there's no mandatory requirement for any of these people in the US to serve their country, even though that same amendment they keep prancing around with states so??

Let's look at it shall we?

Here's both versions:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


All the Pro-Gunners down there always.... ALWAYS just use the end of the amendment, but seem to think the whole part about a Militia being necessary is part of some seperate sentence.

It's all one sentence, it all relates to one another. In order to maintain a Militia that is well regulated, people have the right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed.

The majority of these people are not part of any Militia nor have any plans on joining up. If none of these people are joining up to defend their country, such as what's done in your above example of Switzerland, these people are not being a part of this militia that is "well regulated", Therefore the amendment doesn't apply as any form of protection of their rights, unless they sign up and have no issue with serving their country with their weapon when needed.

Not to mention none of these people are getting the very important education and training from this militia to be sure that risks are greatly reduced in their hands.

This is why your Switzerland example doesn't seem to relate very well.

I'd trust a Swiss with their firearm then I would an average American with a mini-gun strapped to their arse.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:38 am
 


Akhenaten Akhenaten:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
travior travior:
Ain't Freedom of Speach, Freedom to Bear Arms and Freedom to Protest great? :)



Yeah cant say you can do all of this in Canada !!! But they dont know this, they cant see through their need to be different from the USA at any cost.


We are different than the USA and it din't cost us anything.



Really? :roll:


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Praxius Praxius:


Let's look at it shall we?

Here's both versions:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


All the Pro-Gunners down there always.... ALWAYS just use the end of the amendment, but seem to think the whole part about a Militia being necessary is part of some seperate sentence.

It's all one sentence, it all relates to one another. In order to maintain a Militia that is well regulated, people have the right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed.

The majority of these people are not part of any Militia nor have any plans on joining up. If none of these people are joining up to defend their country, such as what's done in your above example of Switzerland, these people are not being a part of this militia that is "well regulated", Therefore the amendment doesn't apply as any form of protection of their rights, unless they sign up and have no issue with serving their country with their weapon when needed.


The Ammendment tells me i have the right to start a well regulated militia and need arms to do it!

Bet Iranians wish they had this right!!!! we would be looking at a different situation in Iran right now!!!


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Praxius Praxius:
Once again, another flawed perspective.


I take it this was an introduction to your comments?


Nice way to typically avoid logical and factual points.... stomp your feet some more and scream "It's My Right" and try and make jokes at other's expense all you want, it still doesn't make you right.

And pointing a gun to my head doesn't either... nor shooting me.

That doesn't make anybody right, it only makes the shooter out to be a childish ass who can't handle a legit debate using actual reasoning.

Face it, unless you have some actual reason that makes any reasonable sense, besides "It's in the Constitution" you got nothing.

The Constitution was writted by other typical humans like you and I, hundreds of years ago. You may think it's perfect and they made no mistakes, but even Canada's charter of rights and freedoms has been revised on a number of occasions to adapt to changing times.

Your country is based around rules and ideals that existed back when Kings and Queens actually held some sort of authority in the world.

Guess what happens to creatures of this world that don't evolve or adapt?

Even the most dangerous, biggests creatures with the biggests claws and teeth won't survive if they don't adapt or evolve.


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ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
Akhenaten Akhenaten:
A perfect representation of the squealing little-girl panic the dumbest are prone to. Yep. "Health Care!?!" and all of a sudden every twit with a rifle thinks he's Patrick Henry...."Over my dead body!!!". As ironic as it is pathetic.



Ive come to realize from most of the posts on this topic Canadians have no true understanding of liberty, (as many Americans)


Oh...do tell...exactly what are "we" missing? It'll be interesting to see how you articulate it to us.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:49 am
 


Pseudonym Pseudonym:
I am inclined to think that the media freakout about the first guy who got interviewed by Chris Matthews (riden linked the vid on page 2 of the thread) for carrying his sidearm got this rolling. If they were threatening Obama with their firearms, or were actually close enough to be a potential threat, then I might see a problem. Everything seems nice and peaceful though. Democracy in action, with police on hand to ask everyone to please keep their distances and make their points politely.


Fair points, but where was the guy who shot JFK? :wink:


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