[Bacardi4206]

Toro Toro:

This idiot nobody on Fox who has a show in the middle of the night makes some dumbass comment about Canada, and what happens? Its all over the front pages of the newspaper. Its on all the national nightly news programs. A minister of the government feels it is necessary to respond. It is brought up in Parliament.

If anyone thinks that someone unknown blowhard on a Canadian TV channel said something derogatory at 3am about American troops would mean prompt the New York Times and the Washington Post to put it on their front page, to have it run on the CBS, ABC and NBC nightly news, to have the US Secretary of State comment and to have it debated in Congress, you do not know America at all.

A more mature country would see this for what it is - some idiot shockjock trying to make a name for himself and completely ignoring it for the insignificance that it is.

What don't you fucking get, this isn't a popularity contest. Who the fuck cares if they are nobodies. If this dude insulted Canada, or if Stephen Colbert insult Canada is doesn't make a fucking difference it's the same thing. They are both media figures and if any one of them was expressing insults towards Canada's military and if you got upset about it. As a citizen you have the direct right to express your anger or even demand a apology.

You are just making a big deal about it because a Canadian political figure demanded a apology. It doesn't matter if Obama, the Secretary of Defense or any American politician would have done the same if some Canadian TV show insulted American troops. We are not on the face of the earth to compare our selves to the American government.

Canada is a patriotic country and that is no different between politicians. This show had the bad taste to disrespect the Canadian military on a day four Canadian soldiers were killed and on a day where Canadian Political figures were on buisness on the subject of those four dead soldiers.

You are here debating maturity and yet you are making this huge arguement about the fact Canada wanted a apology from these people. If you were a mature person as you are trying to play out to be. You would simply understand that it's just a apology and theres no harm in it. You are doing the same thing that you are slamming Canadians for do which is bitching about what somebody said.

Canadians are bitching about stereo-types and disrespect some American TV show showed towards us. While you are bitching that we want a apology.

That being said, take your advice.

[2Cdo]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

*EDIT* Further more, are you saying Canadians should get upset only if they were popular comedians? So if Stephen Colbert insulted the Canadian Military and struck a patriotic nerve amung Canadians that he would be a valid target to demand a apology from? That makes zero sense. It doesn't matter who the comedians are. Obviously they are important enough since there episodes were leaked within hours on youtube and has been seen across Canada by now. Even enough to get fox to think twice about if there show should stay or not.

I wouldn't have given a rats ass about "any" comedians insults!

Personally I find the "outrage" embarassing and childish.

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$1:

"It' garbage reporting and bad apples like this uniformed individual/show that gives Americans a bad reputation around the world. I don't paint all Americans with the same brush and I hope the rest of Canadians and the world don't do the same. I can' believe that Fox would sanction such an outlandish comment to made. As for his apology it came across very weak and insincere especially to the family and friends of the fallen! Presently and proudly serving Canada!"

That was a part of a convo I had with an old army buddy of mine. He was in A-stan in 07.

[Bodah]

The best way to deal with the comments of a few idiots is to ignore them. Don't add fuel to the fire.

Its embarrassing to keep on whining about it,especially after they apologized even if it was insincere. So grow a pair.

[2Cdo]

Bacardi were you insulted when Obama referred to Ottawa as Iowa?

Or is it just outrage over comedians on Fox that upsets you?

[Bacardi4206]

Toro Toro:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Yeah I guess that makes sense. So if I called you a fucking asshole while you asked for a apology. By your standards I wouldn't be the immature prick, but you would be?

So if you called Harper an idiot on this forum, would you expect Harper to get all upset? Would you expect him to get all huffy and demand an apology?

Honestly? Because that's the analogy.

Harper doesn't care that you slag him. He's the Prime Minister. You (as am I) are a nobody.

Yet, you seem to think that acknowledging this nobody by the government is a mature thing to do.

Its embarrassing.

If harper demanded a apology from if if I called him a idiot than yes I would give him one. It's just a apology and if I insulted him than he deserves one.

However calling somebody a idiot and this is a entire different thing. The things they said to Canadians were complete disrespectful and amung one of the worst things you could have said at this point in time. Where Canadians are upset over losing many good soldiers in the war of Afghanistan and there comments hit a nerve amung Canadians.

If you think it's embarassing than hide your head in the sand unti'll it's over. But not everybody does think it's embarrassing and most people are more outraged than embarrassed so if you feel so strongly about it. Write up the government and tell them how you feel. Otherwise you are complaining to a forum of people who are not government officials and making no valid points.

[Bacardi4206]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Bacardi were you insulted when Obama referred to Ottawa as Iowa?

Or is it just outrage over comedians on Fox that upsets you?

2Cdo you seem to failing to understand the difference between a common mistake, and pure intended disrespect.

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[Bacardi4206]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

*EDIT* Further more, are you saying Canadians should get upset only if they were popular comedians? So if Stephen Colbert insulted the Canadian Military and struck a patriotic nerve amung Canadians that he would be a valid target to demand a apology from? That makes zero sense. It doesn't matter who the comedians are. Obviously they are important enough since there episodes were leaked within hours on youtube and has been seen across Canada by now. Even enough to get fox to think twice about if there show should stay or not.

I wouldn't have given a rats ass about "any" comedians insults!

Personally I find the "outrage" embarassing and childish.

That's your opinion and you have a right to it and I respect it. However other's including myself don't share that opinion and you need to respect theres.

I find it bad taste that they would poke jokes and disrespect the Canadian military after all the losses and effort we have put in for THEM. What is childish is that they diddn't realize the poor taste it was to make jokes like that at a time like this. Expecially against a country that has done so much for them.

If you don't give a rats ass about that than that's your choice but for me it hit my patriotic nerve and I am down right tierd of the same old bullshit dispresct when we deserve a lot more than that.

[2Cdo]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Bacardi were you insulted when Obama referred to Ottawa as Iowa?

Or is it just outrage over comedians on Fox that upsets you?

2Cdo you seem to failing to understand the difference between a common mistake, and pure intended disrespect.

No I'm just mature enough to not let ignorant people rile me. You fail to understand that I give no thought to statements made by uninformed people, unlike yourself. You, and other like you, have given these people press coverage beyond what they deserve.

But I see know that it's only third-rate comedians that offend you but not leaders of nations who can't remember our nations capital.

[2Cdo]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

*EDIT* Further more, are you saying Canadians should get upset only if they were popular comedians? So if Stephen Colbert insulted the Canadian Military and struck a patriotic nerve amung Canadians that he would be a valid target to demand a apology from? That makes zero sense. It doesn't matter who the comedians are. Obviously they are important enough since there episodes were leaked within hours on youtube and has been seen across Canada by now. Even enough to get fox to think twice about if there show should stay or not.

I wouldn't have given a rats ass about "any" comedians insults!

Personally I find the "outrage" embarassing and childish.

That's your opinion and you have a right to it and I respect it. However other's including myself don't share that opinion and you need to respect theres.

I find it bad taste that they would poke jokes and disrespect the Canadian military after all the losses and effort we have put in for THEM. What is childish is that they diddn't realize the poor taste it was to make jokes like that at a time like this. Expecially against a country that has done so much for them.

If you don't give a rats ass about that than that's your choice but for me it hit my patriotic nerve and I am down right tierd of the same old bullshit dispresct when we deserve a lot more than that.

I have no problems with you having an opinion, even if I find the opinion childish and embarassing.

[Toro]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

What don't you fucking get, this isn't a popularity contest. Who the fuck cares if they are nobodies. If this dude insulted Canada, or if Stephen Colbert insult Canada is doesn't make a fucking difference it's the same thing. They are both media figures and if any one of them was expressing insults towards Canada's military and if you got upset about it. As a citizen you have the direct right to express your anger or even demand a apology.

You are just making a big deal about it because a Canadian political figure demanded a apology. It doesn't matter if Obama, the Secretary of Defense or any American politician would have done the same if some Canadian TV show insulted American troops. We are not on the face of the earth to compare our selves to the American government.

Canada is a patriotic country and that is no different between politicians. This show had the bad taste to disrespect the Canadian military on a day four Canadian soldiers were killed and on a day where Canadian Political figures were on buisness on the subject of those four dead soldiers.

You are here debating maturity and yet you are making this huge arguement about the fact Canada wanted a apology from these people. If you were a mature person as you are trying to play out to be. You would simply understand that it's just a apology and theres no harm in it. You are doing the same thing that you are slamming Canadians for do which is bitching about what somebody said.

Canadians are bitching about stereo-types and disrespect some American TV show showed towards us. While you are bitching that we want a apology.

That being said, take your advice.

I am bitching because Canadians have a massive inferiority complex to the Americans, and this is yet another example of it. Good Lord, there is so much good about Canada, you would think that a secure nation wouldn't give a fuck what some nobody at 3am says on a program nobody watches.

[Bacardi4206]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Does a third-rate comedian talking trash actually affect your life and well being?

I never said it effected my life or well being? Stop putting words in my mouth. I am saying that what they said was disrespectful and hit many patriotic nerves amung Canadians. There jokes were in bad taste and in that sense should apologize and that's all. It's not like we are demanding blood here. All they wanted is a apology and that was all.

Like those IDF T-Shirts of having a pregnant woman in sights and the words "1 shot 2 kills". To IDF soldiers that would probally be funny or atleast to some. However to people in the Gaza or even anybody that would be a highly disrespectful and purely bad taste in a joke. Yet if somebody demanded a apology for that you wouldn't be getting your panties in a twist over that apology would you?

If those jokes diddn't upset you than that's your buisness but it upset others and if they want a apology than that's there buisness.

$1:

Do you feel so poorly of yourself that you need the respect of others? Up until 9/11 most Canadians didn't give a rats ass about our military but now they are all "offended".

Um... I can see now that you are just debating for the sake of argueing because nothing you say has anything to do with what I said. I stated I think Canada is a country that demands respect for the good intentioned actions it does world wide but it never does. For a long time I have never gotten upset about that, I am just stating that we deserve it.

As for regaring the disrespect. I was stating that we could handle non-respect but there is a limit to how much stereo-type bullshit and disrespect and jokes you can make. Expecially about the Canadian Military and our Efforts.

$1:

With all the uproar raised, you've probably made these guys a fortune in upcoming comedy shows down south. Sometimes ignoring something stupid means it dies a natural death, this has only prolonged their "careers"!

The hell do I care about that? They showed disrespect and we showed them that disrespect or so called jokes are not wanted. That's all I care about, I don't give a rats ass how much money they make afterwards. As for there careers. Fox news has thought twice about keeping there show after all the complaints and IMO there is no future for them in TV as nobody wants to hire somebody that will attract complains and complaints = less people interested in the network.

[Bacardi4206]

Toro Toro:

I am bitching because Canadians have a massive inferiority complex to the Americans, and this is yet another example of it. Good Lord, there is so much good about Canada, you would think that a secure nation wouldn't give a fuck what some nobody at 3am says on a program nobody watches.

For the last time, and clean out your ears for god sake. This isn't about the fact they are a TV show at 3am and they are not important. What is important is what they said and that they said it as a bad time where Canada is involved in a war with many casualties and the bad timing if stating it when four more soldiers were killed.

It doesn't matter who the hell they are, it's what they said. Get it?

[Bacardi4206]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I have no problems with you having an opinion, even if I find the opinion childish and embarassing.

What's childish is the jokes they dished out there show, what's embarassing is your lack of patriotism in the matter.