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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:16 pm
 


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Can someone tell me why these capsules (which are a step backwards) are beter than shuttles?? Whatever happened to the next generation space shuttles?? [huh]

-J.


Not in the budget.

NASA isn't that well funded.


Exactly. NASA's really good at announcing long-range plans that have no chance at all of being realized. They kind of get lucky later on though when no one pays attention to when the politicians usually put the kibosh on the more exotic, glamourous, and expensive things the rocket boys keep dreaming up. I like the space dream as much as anyone else but the payoffs most of the time seem to be a lot smaller than the cost is of what they want to do.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:48 pm
 


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Can someone tell me why these capsules (which are a step backwards) are beter than shuttles?? Whatever happened to the next generation space shuttles?? [huh]

-J.

Just a pure guess here but it might have to do with weight constraints at liftoff. Anything travelling between planets will need a shit load more shielding against radiation if it's carrying life than if it's just buzzing around in orbit.
Although I'm no engineer by any stretch so I could be wayyyyyyy off :lol:


No, you're quite right. The Earth's magnetic field protects us from the nastiness out there. The tin can would need a good amount of heavy shielding along with multiple hulls to stop micro meteor punctures. Plus fuel for the trip, including landing and re-launching. Not light.

And I was waiting for the next gen shuttle too, till about 5 years ago when they said there will be no next gen. Shame. Most of the Apollo technology has been lost, and they nearly lost the only remaining rocket due to lack of maintenance budget. Now only the Russians and Chinese are capable of low and near Earth orbit. And perhaps only the Chinese and Indians will be capable of Moon landings in the near future.


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I guess a toilet, shower, good bed and dishwasher doesn't fit in there, right? I ain't goin'. XD

You won't need a bed and dishwasher. There's no gravity that would require you to have good back support. I mean people keep talking about special mattresses that are like sleeping on air. Dishwashers won't be necessary since you'll be eating paste out of tubes. For a shower, they'll send a goodly supply of moist towelettes, and they have toilets :wink:

Have a nice tripImage :lol:

No toilets because it's needed for recycling. Bon Appetit :lol:


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Brenda Brenda:
I guess a toilet, shower, good bed and dishwasher doesn't fit in there, right? I ain't goin'. XD


Stand by for that invitation, sounds like they have a role for you in this mission! :P


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I guess a toilet, shower, good bed and dishwasher doesn't fit in there, right? I ain't goin'. XD


Stand by for that invitation, sounds like they have a role for you in this mission! :P

Make me a sammich :twisted:


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Brenda Brenda:
Gunnair Gunnair:
Brenda Brenda:
I guess a toilet, shower, good bed and dishwasher doesn't fit in there, right? I ain't goin'. XD


Stand by for that invitation, sounds like they have a role for you in this mission! :P

Make me a sammich :twisted:


an' 'tum pie, womyn!


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And perhaps only the Chinese and Indians will be capable of Moon landings in the near future.

great....we're going to need restaurants and convenience stores for future colonists.


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And perhaps only the Chinese and Indians will be capable of Moon landings in the near future.

great....we're going to need restaurants and convenience stores for future colonists.

Damn, can you imagine the delivery charge to get some delivery from the Moon Palace Chinese Restaurant?! 8O


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
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Can someone tell me why these capsules (which are a step backwards) are beter than shuttles?? Whatever happened to the next generation space shuttles?? [huh]

-J.

Just a pure guess here but it might have to do with weight constraints at liftoff. Anything travelling between planets will need a shit load more shielding against radiation if it's carrying life than if it's just buzzing around in orbit.
Although I'm no engineer by any stretch so I could be wayyyyyyy off :lol:


No, you're quite right. The Earth's magnetic field protects us from the nastiness out there. The tin can would need a good amount of heavy shielding along with multiple hulls to stop micro meteor punctures. Plus fuel for the trip, including landing and re-launching. Not light.

Well holy shit, my logic and reasoning still works 8O :lol:


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And here I thought Pluto Nash wasn't based on fact. 8O


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CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
Can someone tell me why these capsules (which are a step backwards) are beter than shuttles?? Whatever happened to the next generation space shuttles?? [huh]

-J.



As much as I love the shuttle program and all it has done to advance mankind it is not the best tool for the job. In much the same way that heavy tanks and V-1 rockets were a waste for the Germans to win WWII in terms of manpower, time and resources that same principal holds true for the shuttle program itself. They may have looked good but the net result was a loss. For every Tiger or V-1 made the US made 10 long range bombers and a company of cheap but reliable Shermans.

Nixon was the reason behind the boondoggle of the shuttle program to begin with and once set in motion it was more expensive to gut the program and start anew then to keep it. Once that happened then government contracts set root in every state making it a golden calf that no one dared sacrifice.

Truth be told for every shuttle flight sent the US could have sent up 10 capsules or more for the price.

Here is a good read that details the flaws


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