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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:22 am
 


I'll have that your not an anti-Semite curt, but I'm suspicious of the Arab/Muslim bloc that vote en masse against Israel.

Look at the treatment of Jews in the Arab countries since Jews were allowed to settle in what is now Israel with the League of Nations mandate in the 1920's.

The UN organised 'Durban' conferences were full of references to the 'eternal Jew' etc. This excuse of criticising Israel isn't being anti-Semitic is disingenuous.

Most Arab nations just want to wipe Israel off the map but the Palestinians within their nations can’t vote, own property, get education etc. It seems to me the Palestinian thing is a convenient excuse and the Arab world has done little to help them except condemn Israel and Jews anytime they can.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:35 am
 


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Really? So why are Palestinians in other Arab countries discriminated against? Why do Islamic nations vote as a bloc when it comes to Israel?


Yes because they are all against its policies and its in their region so it the situations concerns regional politics. And as for the palestenians its most a refugee problem and still a lot have been accomadated. Majority of Jordanians expats in the gulf actually palestenians who have gotten Jordanian nationality. Since you all love refugees so much how bout you import all of them and give them canadian citizenships !

And also if talking about voting why does the US veto everything condeming or critizcing Israel wheter right or wrong ?

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Why does Islam spawn terrorists who attack Jews outside of Israel like the Pakistani guys who hunted down the few Jews in Mumbai?


Well to answer idiotic questions I will have stoop down to idiocy aunfortunately. Why does Judaism spawn so many terrorist against the Palestenians and why does Christianity spawn so many who support jewish terroists ?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:42 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Look at the treatment of Jews in the Arab countries since Jews were allowed to settle in what is now Israel with the League of Nations mandate in the 1920's.


Yes lets look up the treatment of Jews in Europe from the that peroid on till 1945.

There is a thing called the Simpson report about the jews in the Arab region I suggest you go and read it and add it to your so called proven sources.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Most Arab nations just want to wipe Israel off the map but the Palestinians within their nations can’t vote, own property, get education etc. It seems to me the Palestinian thing is a convenient excuse and the Arab world has done little to help them except condemn Israel and Jews anytime they can.


Could you name me one Arab leader who has said that, and what Palestenian nation are you talking about that they can vote or own property in ??? The Palestenians had a nation in which they did own property etc etc but now it is occupied by Israel.


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Really? So why are Palestinians in other Arab countries discriminated against? Why do Islamic nations vote as a bloc when it comes to Israel?


Yes because they are all against its policies and its in their region so it the situations concerns regional politics. And as for the palestenians its most a refugee problem and still a lot have been accomadated. Majority of Jordanians expats in the gulf actually palestenians who have gotten Jordanian nationality. Since you all love refugees so much how bout you import all of them and give them canadian citizenships !

And also if talking about voting why does the US veto everything condeming or critizcing Israel wheter right or wrong ?

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Why does Islam spawn terrorists who attack Jews outside of Israel like the Pakistani guys who hunted down the few Jews in Mumbai?


Well to answer idiotic questions I will have stoop down to idiocy aunfortunately. Why does Judaism spawn so many terrorist against the Palestenians and why does Christianity spawn so many who support jewish terroists ?




Which 'Jewish terrorists' are you referring to DD? Please, do elaborate.


The fact stands that Pakistani terrorists went out of their way to hunt down the few Jews that live in Mumbai. That would say to me that some Pakistanis have a grudge against Jews.

Jews haven't taken any land from Pakistan or have ever gone to war with Pakistan there is no other logical explanation than some cultural/religious grudge against Jews emanating from Pakistan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11586217


Also Canada takes in more refugees per capita than any developed nation and there are many of Palestinians who have settled in Canada.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:46 am
 


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The article that DD posted the other day which nobody seemed to want to talk about was trying to say this. That people who are pro-Israel, should be more critical.


Thanks Curt, I'm sure many saw it but ofcourse no one wants to talk about.

I think only shep responded but only trying to decredit the author.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:55 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Which 'Jewish terrorists' are you referring to DD? Please, do elaborate.


The IDF

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
That would say to me that some Pakistanis have a grudge against Jews.


It would seem that way and I agree.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Also Canada takes in more refugees per capita than any developed nation and there are many of Palestinians who have settled in Canada.


I didn't say no one did, why not send out a boat and pick up all the displaced palestenian.

Yes I do know Canada takes in a lot of refugees from the noise people like you make about them.

Your panties are all in a twist over refugees in Canada and yet you expect other countries to open the gates. And to start of their shouldn't be any palestenian refugess. Where did they come from, years ago they all had lands and homes where they had been living on for hundreds of years.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:59 am
 


desertdude desertdude:
Curtman Curtman:
The article that DD posted the other day which nobody seemed to want to talk about was trying to say this. That people who are pro-Israel, should be more critical.


Thanks Curt, I'm sure many saw it but ofcourse no one wants to talk about.

I think only shep responded but only trying to decredit the author.


Here's a few press articles which illuminate the plight of Palestinians in Arab countries;


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 06790.html

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/19950/

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp ... _id=114245

http://www.hrw.org/en/node/11181/section/6

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... id=9718520


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:00 pm
 


I think Harper is referring to people like desertdude in his statement :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:01 pm
 


I'll give you a chance to respond once you read my earlier post on this


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:02 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
I'll give you a chance to respond once you read my earlier post on this


What, that the IDF are terrorists? Well there's a balanced view eh?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:02 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
I think Harper is referring to people like desertdude in his statement :wink:



I think you might be right Proc!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:07 pm
 


I think what worries me is the fact that ANY criticism of Israel, even when it's bang on, is considered anti-semtism.
Hell, I've been HIGHLY critical of our own government on a variety of subjects. I guess that makes me an anti-canuck.
I've been highly critical of US policies as well. But despite the fact I visit there regularily and have good friends there, I must still be anti-American :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:13 pm
 


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I think what worries me is the fact that ANY criticism of Israel, even when it's bang on, is considered anti-semtism.
Hell, I've been HIGHLY critical of our own government on a variety of subjects. I guess that makes me an anti-canuck.



careful, we have a medal for that :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:19 pm
 


I dunno, I guess if Harper is gonna expend energy making relentless stands, he COULD make a relentless stand against illegal immigrants. A stand that would benefit Canada would be much preferable than picking sides in that giant cluster fuck called the Middle East!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:23 pm
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
I think what worries me is the fact that ANY criticism of Israel, even when it's bang on, is considered anti-semtism.
Hell, I've been HIGHLY critical of our own government on a variety of subjects. I guess that makes me an anti-canuck.
I've been highly critical of US policies as well. But despite the fact I visit there regularily and have good friends there, I must still be anti-American :roll:


Well ANY criticism of Israel being seen as anti-Semitism is plainly silly, but....I have noted that the anti-Semites frequently use this as a cover-all defence.

When I hear opinions like "The IDF are terrorists" I know who I'm dealing with.


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