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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:02 am
 


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Good point Brenda.. in Québec you have to remove ball caps and hats to go into a casino and that was long before the burka issue. Personally, I don't have a problem with turbans, scarfs, hijab, ( as long as they are short). but I do have a major issue with something that covers ones face.. and I would vote against them if it came to that.


I worked in a restaurant where wearing baseball caps was a no-no and we would ask customers to remove them.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:50 am
 


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I dislike the burqua as much as anyone. I see it as a sign of oppression against women. However when we start banning things where do we stop? And who decides what get's banned and what gets tolerated? In 50 years people may want to ban all religion.


Anyone wanting to wear a burqa does not have to move to a country where wearing it is banned.

Just the same as no one has to move to a country where wearing the burqa is mandatory.

If Saudi Arabia can require the burqa then Belgium can ban it.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:07 am
 


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If Saudi Arabia can require the burqa then Belgium can ban it.
Guns are more harmful than a burqa. How about we ban them too?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:22 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If Saudi Arabia can require the burqa then Belgium can ban it.
Guns are more harmful than a burqa. How about we ban them too?

Guns are banned in Belgium, unless youh ave a permit.

Hmmmm, a burqa permit... :P
Tax the shit out of them!!! :P


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:40 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If Saudi Arabia can require the burqa then Belgium can ban it.
Guns are more harmful than a burqa. How about we ban them too?


The two recent mass murders in Moscow were carried out not by women using guns, but by women who wore burqas to hide their suicide bombs.

Considering that they killed more than 50 people at one time, I dare say the burqas were demonstrably more harmful than even an Ak-47 would've been.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:46 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
RUEZ RUEZ:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If Saudi Arabia can require the burqa then Belgium can ban it.
Guns are more harmful than a burqa. How about we ban them too?


The two recent mass murders in Moscow were carried out not by women using guns, but by women who wore burqas to hide their suicide bombs.

Considering that they killed more than 50 people at one time, I dare say the burqas were demonstrably more harmful than even an Ak-47 would've been.


Comeon, Bart. You're a smart guy. You can reason better than that. I know you like to torture logic and all, but give me a break. Without the explosives (which even your country regulates closely) those burkas would have posed no danger at all. If the burkas had been used to conceal AK's, would you still be claiming that it's the burka that poses the danger, rather than the guns? By far the greatest majority of suiciders have not worn burkas. If suiciding were to take off in Canada, should we ban bulky clothing in the winter?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:45 pm
 


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Comeon, Bart. You're a smart guy. You can reason better than that. I know you like to torture logic and all, but give me a break. Without the explosives (which even your country regulates closely) those burkas would have posed no danger at all. If the burkas had been used to conceal AK's, would you still be claiming that it's the burka that poses the danger, rather than the guns? By far the greatest majority of suiciders have not worn burkas. If suiciding were to take off in Canada, should we ban bulky clothing in the winter?


Whatever.

When the Muslims have enough population in Canada to start dictating terms to you people you'll either follow suit with France and Belgium or you'll have to come to terms with being second class citizens in your own country.

And don't tell me that it will never happen in Canada because it is happening in Europe and that's why you're seeing the liberal Europeans considering laws like this.


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When the Muslims have enough population in Canada to start dictating terms to you people you'll either follow suit with France and Belgium or you'll have to come to terms with being second class citizens in your own country.

And don't tell me that it will never happen in Canada because it is happening in Europe and that's why you're seeing the liberal Europeans considering laws like this.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/swamped-by-religion/article1537361/

Refreshingly, Mr. Kaufmann doesn’t subscribe to the most popular version of this thesis, the one about baby-mad Muslims becoming a majority in Europe. In fact, he does the best statistical job I’ve yet seen of demolishing the “Eurabia” fairytale, showing that even in a worst-case scenario, followers of Mohammed will never make up more than 8 per cent of Europe’s population. His is a nuanced, scholarly attempt at claiming we’ll soon be swamped.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:05 pm
 


Right. That's why it's safe for women to walk around in Marseilles and Malmo without at least a head scarf on.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:24 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
I see it as a sign of oppression against women.

Problem is nobody is forcing these women to wear them. It's called a 'choice' and while it seems stupid, alien, or brainwashed, how do we distinguish one freedom from another?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:32 am
 


I now have the urge to buy Belgian chocolate and cookies and hug the nearest Belgian person I see.

**looks around**

Well, I don't see any at the moment....

Let's hope the Canadian goverment wakes up an duplicates this.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:24 pm
 


Tman1 Tman1:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I see it as a sign of oppression against women.

Problem is nobody is forcing these women to wear them. It's called a 'choice' and while it seems stupid, alien, or brainwashed, how do we distinguish one freedom from another?

You skipped the rest of my post where I said something similar.


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